[komodod]

cantregister, on 21 March 2012 - 12:21 AM, said:

komodod, on 20 March 2012 - 09:59 PM, said:

i love ak47, ive got the pre 2000 cut, and i grow out loads of the newer seeds. so why do you think loads of people are getting these hermies now when you used a basic setup and didnt get any?

Each to his own komodod CR

have you tryed the 90s cut?

[komodod]

weedmonsta, on 20 March 2012 - 10:15 PM, said:

i have no idea, maybe heat could be an issue

every grower had a heat issue?

[komodod]

cantregister, on 20 March 2012 - 06:55 PM, said:

i no nothing about who,s who,s in the seed world.

ah now i understand..

[worm1]

pay the extra bucks for smellyberry or DJ Short True Blueberry, then you have a popular blueberry

[MrSparkles]

worm1, on 21 March 2012 - 03:00 AM, said:

pay the extra bucks for smellyberry or DJ Short True Blueberry, then you have a popular blueberry

Hey Worm1, They are hybrids of Blueberry so only 50% of the real thing and arnt really any more expensive. Also both produce very frosty green buds with no colour separation and Little Blue/Purple without having to flush and rapidly cool them just before harvest....

Blueberry has never been stated as an easy grow. Its more of a challenge with good Looking & Tasteing if you get it right

Peace to all,

[AustrianTokker]

I've never grown the original Blueberry but i'm a big fan of the flavour and its extended family. I have smoked some on numerous occasions. I will certainly grow either Dj shorts' or DP's Blueberry one day. I guess the strain has its legacy from the 90s and still lives under its reputation. Yet, i've come accross some nice "blueberry" type strains.

I've grown white berry from Paradise (fem) and have found it to have a very nice berry type flavour and does also turn a little purple if you decide to be a little patient with them - the advert says, ready in 8 weeks, but i left some of mine about 9.5 weeks and they were magnificent. you can check it out as it's included in the diary "Tent full of goodies" (clicky)
The WB buzz was not too overpowering and very moreish! I wish i had some right now! I reckon the original blueberry is perhaps stronger (if that's what you are looking for). I must agree that smelly berry is also very nice, slightly different but also berry!! Actually SB is certainly in the top 10 smokes i've ever had flavour wise (I still have a pack which i'm dying to grow).

So, if you are weary about the "hermy" issue and berry flavour is what you are looking for, there are definitely interesting strains around.

I would also like to add, that people who complain are usually much louder than people who praise!

Hope this helped,

AT

[baldur]

Seems a strange one this,i think it has been stated that Blueberry sells in huge quantities sure there have been problems.However from the bigger picture i.e.the amount sold. Then, the amount of complaints is probably very small.

I know it is a right pisser when things go tits up but BB has always been a tricky one to get right.When it is "right" it is a lovely smoke

[Evilscotsman]

Just thought id add, grew out Berry Bomb my last opp, n let me tell you peeps its probably the most berrylicious heavenly smellin plant ive eva grown....yield was above average, frosty as you like but the smell of the end product was like the best bb iv had and then some, its like bb with with a punch behind it imho
(Evil)

[OG Skunkboy]

baldur, on 22 March 2012 - 07:51 AM, said:

Seems a strange one this,i think it has been stated that Blueberry sells in huge quantities sure there have been problems.However from the bigger picture i.e.the amount sold. Then, the amount of complaints is probably very small.

I know it is a right pisser when things go tits up but BB has always been a tricky one to get right.When it is "right" it is a lovely smoke

Yeah but complaints are always going to be small when you buy something your not supposed to germinate. Also people have been told by the seed companies it must be their own fault for being crap growers if they get any ladyboys show up which would put many people off reporting the problem as well. Works perfectly for the seed companies to act innocent and not even need to worry if it was their fault or not!

I have a friend who will claim he has no hermie issues at all when growing fem's but he does not trim his bud very well at all. I would always find bananas in his bud when i would trim it. Some people do not pay enough attention to notice they have problems but my friend will still insist his bud is perfect. Its so not! Not sure how he makes everything taste the same like he does its rubbish! This though is an example of someone who thinks 30 years of gardening knowledge makes him untouchable but he does not pay close attention to his grows. His ego tells him he cant do wrong so he would believe ladyboys are not his fault when i would say most the time in his case they probably would be.

We have all heard about different ways to feminize seeds and we know some ways are not as successful as others and we know that mistakes still happen from time to time. Thats why i think seed companies need to stop blaming customers so much and looking closer at their own quality control on occasion. The speed some companies rush out new strains suggests they are more about quantity than quality sadly. Add that company mentality to a grower who thinks they are better than they are and arguments are waiting to happen.

Lets face it. Some times its simply the genetics that are poor and a perfect grow room will suffer ladyboys as a result. Some times growers think they can do no wrong when they do many things wrong so they will act like it has to be genetics because they cant see their own faults. Simon from Serious Seeds has refused to release Serious Six for a couple of years because of the odd hermie showing up during flowering. Thats quality control! Not a new strain for years because it takes time to make sure its reliable and will not release it until its ready.

I have a problem with DP because they clearly did a bad job on their fems back when the gay trend started off and i think refused to take any blame for their own mistakes. Admitting to anything now is too little too late. The money has been made, spent and invested already so a simple sorry is worthless. I have not touched fem seeds for many years since being burned by DP and probably never will.

I would expect most their strains to work properly now as the art of feminizing seems to be common knowledge to most in the industry.

People should remember that Blueberry i'm pretty sure has some Thai genetics in it, i think Highland Thai? either way Thailand is the land of ladyboys and their weed has a reputation for being ladyboyish too. I approach anything Thai with a little caution especially feminized Thai! Fem seeds have a bit of a hermie rep and so does Thai so putting the two together screams of trouble to me.

I hope this is not seen as someone bitching. I am fed up of the back and fourth battling on here. If Tony does not want to answer people then thats DP's issue to deal with. I do not think forum members speaking on his behalf are helping anything but to make things worse by rubbing already irritated people the wrong way. People do not want an answer on a help desk from someone not attached to the company most the time. It just makes shit go round in circles endlessly because users do not at times class each other qualified to answer.

Also without knowing each other and each others set ups/grow methods who are we to judge each other? We do not know each others skills so there's no point pointing fingers at who is to blame. Let the customer and company deal with it.

I'm annoyed for getting round up in this thread personally. My DP prob's happend years ago so they are out of date and not worth the hassle anymore so i'm done caring

Hope you all have a good day!

[moodyman78]

OG Skunkboy, on 22 March 2012 - 10:37 AM, said:

baldur, on 22 March 2012 - 07:51 AM, said:

Seems a strange one this,i think it has been stated that Blueberry sells in huge quantities sure there have been problems.However from the bigger picture i.e.the amount sold. Then, the amount of complaints is probably very small.

I know it is a right pisser when things go tits up but BB has always been a tricky one to get right.When it is "right" it is a lovely smoke

Yeah but complaints are always going to be small when you buy something your not supposed to germinate. Also people have been told by the seed companies it must be their own fault for being crap growers if they get any ladyboys show up which would put many people off reporting the problem as well. Works perfectly for the seed companies to act innocent and not even need to worry if it was their fault or not!

I have a friend who will claim he has no hermie issues at all when growing fem's but he does not trim his bud very well at all. I would always find bananas in his bud when i would trim it. Some people do not pay enough attention to notice they have problems but my friend will still insist his bud is perfect. Its so not! Not sure how he makes everything taste the same like he does its rubbish! This though is an example of someone who thinks 30 years of gardening knowledge makes him untouchable but he does not pay close attention to his grows. His ego tells him he cant do wrong so he would believe ladyboys are not his fault when i would say most the time in his case they probably would be.

We have all heard about different ways to feminize seeds and we know some ways are not as successful as others and we know that mistakes still happen from time to time. Thats why i think seed companies need to stop blaming customers so much and looking closer at their own quality control on occasion. The speed some companies rush out new strains suggests they are more about quantity than quality sadly. Add that company mentality to a grower who thinks they are better than they are and arguments are waiting to happen.

Lets face it. Some times its simply the genetics that are poor and a perfect grow room will suffer ladyboys as a result. Some times growers think they can do no wrong when they do many things wrong so they will act like it has to be genetics because they cant see their own faults. Simon from Serious Seeds has refused to release Serious Six for a couple of years because of the odd hermie showing up during flowering. Thats quality control! Not a new strain for years because it takes time to make sure its reliable and will not release it until its ready.

I have a problem with DP because they clearly did a bad job on their fems back when the gay trend started off and i think refused to take any blame for their own mistakes. Admitting to anything now is too little too late. The money has been made, spent and invested already so a simple sorry is worthless. I have not touched fem seeds for many years since being burned by DP and probably never will.

I would expect most their strains to work properly now as the art of feminizing seems to be common knowledge to most in the industry.

People should remember that Blueberry i'm pretty sure has some Thai genetics in it, i think Highland Thai? either way Thailand is the land of ladyboys and their weed has a reputation for being ladyboyish too. I approach anything Thai with a little caution especially feminized Thai! Fem seeds have a bit of a hermie rep and so does Thai so putting the two together screams of trouble to me.

I hope this is not seen as someone bitching. I am fed up of the back and fourth battling on here. If Tony does not want to answer people then thats DP's issue to deal with. I do not think forum members speaking on his behalf are helping anything but to make things worse by rubbing already irritated people the wrong way. People do not want an answer on a help desk from someone not attached to the company most the time. It just makes shit go round in circles endlessly because users do not at times class each other qualified to answer.

Also without knowing each other and each others set ups/grow methods who are we to judge each other? We do not know each others skills so there's no point pointing fingers at who is to blame. Let the customer and company deal with it.

I'm annoyed for getting round up in this thread personally. My DP prob's happend years ago so they are out of date and not worth the hassle anymore so i'm done caring

Hope you all have a good day!

The point, and the only point, and one to bare in mind when posting in any one's help desk, is that the tone and attitude of certain posters made any kind of reply impossible, it is the same in UGORG threads, IT IS NOT PERSONAL IF YOU DONT LIKE A COMPANY OR ARE UNHAPPY WITH THE SERVICE THERE ARE WAYS OF EXPRESING YOURSELF

If you had posted this originaly and if Sasquatch just said nothing I think we might have had a response by now, maybe nothing more than what Tony has already said, maybe not, and to rant and rave like you did and then say

'I have a problem with DP because they clearly did a bad job on their fems back when the gay trend started off and i think refused to take any blame for their own mistakes. Admitting to anything now is too little too late. The money has been made, spent and invested already so a simple sorry is worthless. I have not touched fem seeds for many years since being burned by DP and probably never will.'

Honestly entitlement much?! The lack of proportion really is ridiculous, it is like having that one pack or however many packs for that matter hermie has scorched your soul, your whole identity forged in that one moment when you stood, legs akimbo and hands on hips shouting at the heavens

'FEMS NEVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR'

just post your experiences, others make minds up, this is how forums work (when they work) simples

This post has been edited by moodyman78: 22 March 2012 - 01:23 PM

[OG Skunkboy]

moodyman78, on 22 March 2012 - 01:22 PM, said:

OG Skunkboy, on 22 March 2012 - 10:37 AM, said:

baldur, on 22 March 2012 - 07:51 AM, said:

Seems a strange one this,i think it has been stated that Blueberry sells in huge quantities sure there have been problems.However from the bigger picture i.e.the amount sold. Then, the amount of complaints is probably very small.

I know it is a right pisser when things go tits up but BB has always been a tricky one to get right.When it is "right" it is a lovely smoke

Yeah but complaints are always going to be small when you buy something your not supposed to germinate. Also people have been told by the seed companies it must be their own fault for being crap growers if they get any ladyboys show up which would put many people off reporting the problem as well. Works perfectly for the seed companies to act innocent and not even need to worry if it was their fault or not!

I have a friend who will claim he has no hermie issues at all when growing fem's but he does not trim his bud very well at all. I would always find bananas in his bud when i would trim it. Some people do not pay enough attention to notice they have problems but my friend will still insist his bud is perfect. Its so not! Not sure how he makes everything taste the same like he does its rubbish! This though is an example of someone who thinks 30 years of gardening knowledge makes him untouchable but he does not pay close attention to his grows. His ego tells him he cant do wrong so he would believe ladyboys are not his fault when i would say most the time in his case they probably would be.

We have all heard about different ways to feminize seeds and we know some ways are not as successful as others and we know that mistakes still happen from time to time. Thats why i think seed companies need to stop blaming customers so much and looking closer at their own quality control on occasion. The speed some companies rush out new strains suggests they are more about quantity than quality sadly. Add that company mentality to a grower who thinks they are better than they are and arguments are waiting to happen.

Lets face it. Some times its simply the genetics that are poor and a perfect grow room will suffer ladyboys as a result. Some times growers think they can do no wrong when they do many things wrong so they will act like it has to be genetics because they cant see their own faults. Simon from Serious Seeds has refused to release Serious Six for a couple of years because of the odd hermie showing up during flowering. Thats quality control! Not a new strain for years because it takes time to make sure its reliable and will not release it until its ready.

I have a problem with DP because they clearly did a bad job on their fems back when the gay trend started off and i think refused to take any blame for their own mistakes. Admitting to anything now is too little too late. The money has been made, spent and invested already so a simple sorry is worthless. I have not touched fem seeds for many years since being burned by DP and probably never will.

I would expect most their strains to work properly now as the art of feminizing seems to be common knowledge to most in the industry.

People should remember that Blueberry i'm pretty sure has some Thai genetics in it, i think Highland Thai? either way Thailand is the land of ladyboys and their weed has a reputation for being ladyboyish too. I approach anything Thai with a little caution especially feminized Thai! Fem seeds have a bit of a hermie rep and so does Thai so putting the two together screams of trouble to me.

I hope this is not seen as someone bitching. I am fed up of the back and fourth battling on here. If Tony does not want to answer people then thats DP's issue to deal with. I do not think forum members speaking on his behalf are helping anything but to make things worse by rubbing already irritated people the wrong way. People do not want an answer on a help desk from someone not attached to the company most the time. It just makes shit go round in circles endlessly because users do not at times class each other qualified to answer.

Also without knowing each other and each others set ups/grow methods who are we to judge each other? We do not know each others skills so there's no point pointing fingers at who is to blame. Let the customer and company deal with it.

I'm annoyed for getting round up in this thread personally. My DP prob's happend years ago so they are out of date and not worth the hassle anymore so i'm done caring

Hope you all have a good day!

The point, and the only point, and one to bare in mind when posting in any one's help desk, is that the tone and attitude of certain posters made any kind of reply impossible, it is the same in UGORG threads, IT IS NOT PERSONAL IF YOU DONT LIKE A COMPANY OR ARE UNHAPPY WITH THE SERVICE THERE ARE WAYS OF EXPRESING YOURSELF

If you had posted this originaly and if Sasquatch just said nothing I think we might have had a response by now, maybe nothing more than what Tony has already said, maybe not, and to rant and rave like you did and then say

'I have a problem with DP because they clearly did a bad job on their fems back when the gay trend started off and i think refused to take any blame for their own mistakes. Admitting to anything now is too little too late. The money has been made, spent and invested already so a simple sorry is worthless. I have not touched fem seeds for many years since being burned by DP and probably never will.'

Honestly entitlement much?! The lack of proportion really is ridiculous, it is like having that one pack or however many packs for that matter hermie has scorched your soul, your whole identity forged in that one moment when you stood, legs akimbo and hands on hips shouting at the heavens

'FEMS NEVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR'

just post your experiences, others make minds up, this is how forums work (when they work) simples

[komodod]

some good points some not. i know the blueberry is thai and is prone to hermie, but the dj short bb was said to normally throw male flowers so late in flowering it didnt really affect the end product. thats not my experince but what ive read. for the most part. the point really is that if you post on any forum that you wanna try dp seeds, you will get a lot of warnings about their hermies. if you do the same with alot of other companies then you probably wont get the same response.

this will follow dp untill they either sort it out, go bust, or they will just ride on the waves of newbie growers who dont know anything about dp to keep them in business...much like the king of cannabis.

[moodyman78]

komodod, on 22 March 2012 - 08:32 PM, said:

some good points some not. i know the blueberry is thai and is prone to hermie, but the dj short bb was said to normally throw male flowers so late in flowering it didnt really affect the end product. thats not my experince but what ive read. for the most part. the point really is that if you post on any forum that you wanna try dp seeds, you will get a lot of warnings about their hermies. if you do the same with alot of other companies then you probably wont get the same response.

this will follow dp untill they either sort it out, go bust, or they will just ride on the waves of newbie growers who dont know anything about dp to keep them in business...much like the king of cannabis.

I am just looking forward to seeing for sure, now there should be a good few diaries on here, if it is as bad as some folks say then DP will look a bit silly

[Kartofel]

Wow, this thread is still going, and what a shitfest it's turned into!....

TD