[namkha]

Yunnan itself experiences intense rain during the monsoon season in the summer - June to September you would expect to be the period of the most intense rain

I don't know the history of the ACE Yunnan plant, but I would presume it has been worked

an unworked Chinese indica you would expect to have CBD in a significant % of plants (1:2;1 ratio of CBD, mixed THC and CBD, pure THC in the population), but that is unlikely to be the case in a strain that has been worked for potency

likewise, you would not expect the Viet-Lao to have CBD --- like Thai and other ganja plants these are almost certainly going to be high THC only (I've read of s mall amounts of CBD being found in some traditional ganja genepools e.g. Durban, but 1.5% ish levels or less)

[Ganjasattva]

Ah, Namkha my man, comes through again with the real-deal facts! Great! I didn't want to dwell too much on the ACE Strain, since we are here on the RSC forum, where the real action is, but my interest has been hightened in light of my having secured your Viet-Lao strain and the fact that it is an adjacent region. The image I had in my mind/memory was of steamy tea plantations in Yunnan and I was sure that the region has its share of humidity, hence my suspicion about humidity tolerance of a feral strain from that region, which your facts seem to support. Thanks again!
ActuallyI don't think that ACE has worked the Yunnan strain for potency, but for feminized seeds only instead and their description of it's effects sound quite similar to your description of your past strain Parvati - mellow, comfortable, without unease etc. So I don't think it has been hyped on the THC end.
I do agree that more mellow or less racey Sativas are more likely to be so due to mitigation of the THC uptake/absorbtion/receptor-docking from the whole turpene profile as opposed to the presence (since it is not present at all or only minimally) of CBD. I do believe though, that some Sativa samples have "acquired" a certain CBD level as a THC degradation bi-product due to imperfect handling/drying/packaging and the resultant exposure (O2/UV etc) of the resin-content of the ruptured trichomes.

One experiment I hope to try is when I harvest a plant that is too speedy for my preference, is to purposely handle the buds (maybe likea slight handrubbing of the buds, but rolling them between sheets of teflon baking paper, so the resin remains sticking to the plant) so that an small amount of oxidation is initiated (I can hear all the hardcore THC-Haze-Premiere-League who also believe that paranoia is part of the fun freaking out and screaming in disgust) but what the hell, a really good expensive red wine has to be decanted and allowed to breathe and begin to breakdown a bit in order to really unfold its full bouquet potential in order to taste truly good, right? Its like the old Zen Story, how the Master, due to his illness, sends out his novice Monk to rake the garden. He wants to please his Master 100% so he rakes it perfectly, leaving not a single leaf. The Master comes out to see how his novice is getting along. He sees the garden and instead of complimenting him as the the novice had hoped, he walks to the bin full of collected leaves, takes a hand full, strolls across the garden and lets a few drop here and there as he goes. When asked by his novice student why he would spoil the perfectly raked garden, he replies, "A fall yard should have a few leaves"

This post has been edited by Ganjasattva: 05 March 2012 - 03:30 PM

[elmanito]

The Yunnan i have is totally different than the one of Ace Seeds.Seeds were straight from China, so the strain was never grown before in the west.It has a flowering period of 8-10 weeks, but start to flower at 50 N in September.It's pretty resistant against molds during the wet autumn months.At this moment i can't give any test results of the cannabinoid profile.

Yunnan indica x Parvati f1



Namaste

[Ganjasattva]

Excellent Elmanito! Really spectacular, that cross looks absolutely great, man! That is the kind of personal hybrid results I am aiming for, so thanks for the inspiration, that it can be achieved! Have you harvested that f1 already or is it still under cultivation? I would be very interested in and grateful for any info you would be so kind as to share. Especially since this is the kind of mix I want to explore, using landraces and strains known to be more of the mellow, euphoric type of stone as opposed to the modern poly-hybrid, that has been bred for ultra-high THC only as the main criteria and standard for judgement. I don't want or need to get devastatingly blasted or freaked by totally racey, panicky stuff, I just want the nice calm, introspective and mellow kind of stone, so strains like the RSCs Himalayan Sativas or not so powerful indicas like the Yunnan seem like a logical bunch of peers to team up.

Anyway Great work, elmanito, keep it up! We appreciate it!

[squeasel]

cool stuff there elmanito
just love the pics from the outdoors/green house. very intersting varaitys of plants.

[elmanito]

Ganjasattva, on 10 March 2012 - 12:13 AM, said:

Excellent Elmanito! Really spectacular, that cross looks absolutely great, man! That is the kind of personal hybrid results I am aiming for, so thanks for the inspiration, that it can be achieved! Have you harvested that f1 already or is it still under cultivation? I would be very interested in and grateful for any info you would be so kind as to share. Especially since this is the kind of mix I want to explore, using landraces and strains known to be more of the mellow, euphoric type of stone as opposed to the modern poly-hybrid, that has been bred for ultra-high THC only as the main criteria and standard for judgement. I don't want or need to get devastatingly blasted or freaked by totally racey, panicky stuff, I just want the nice calm, introspective and mellow kind of stone, so strains like the RSCs Himalayan Sativas or not so powerful indicas like the Yunnan seem like a logical bunch of peers to team up.

Anyway Great work, elmanito, keep it up! We appreciate it!

Thanks for the compliments, but the plant on the photo was a male btw.This is a female flower close up of the same hybrid.Unfortunately i had rippers in my garden and several plants of this hybrid was totally stripped to the bottom.I think they had a nice surprise afterwards.The buds were full of seeds.



What sort of info would you like to have???

Namaste

This post has been edited by elmanito: 10 March 2012 - 10:41 PM

[Rinse]

elmanito, on 08 March 2012 - 08:41 AM, said:

The Yunnan i have is totally different than the one of Ace Seeds.Seeds were straight from China, so the strain was never grown before in the west.It has a flowering period of 8-10 weeks, but start to flower at 50 N in September.It's pretty resistant against molds during the wet autumn months.At this moment i can't give any test results of the cannabinoid profile.

Yunnan indica x Parvati f1



Namaste

Nice plant, how does the Parvati compare to the Yunnan in flowering?

[elmanito]

Rinse, on 10 March 2012 - 10:46 PM, said:

Nice plant, how does the Parvati compare to the Yunnan in flowering?

Flowers of the Parvati are less compact than the one of the Yunnan.Flower period is a bit longer 10-11 weeks.Another thing is that the Yunnan strain ask more fertile soil for its big leafs, growth than the Parvati, although with the use of Celtic sea salt,worm casting, compost tea and rock dust and a bit of Alfalfa is more than enough imo.The same recipe you can use for the Parvati or other Himalayan landraces but less often than for indicas.

Namaste

[Ganjasattva]

Hey elmanito!

I just happened to see the link to this thread at the bottom of one of you other posts and since my interest in Parvati has been growing constantly, thought I'd have a look. Think I read the beginning few entries earlier but didn't follow it through, going through now, I am really awed in respect of the scope and diversity of your cultivation situation you have achieved! Truly, my sincerest respect and gratitude for such inspiring and motivating sharing of your efforts and fantastic results! Thank-you!

Luckily, I am not a jealous person at all, otherwise I would be green with envy of your situation, but so, I am just glad for you and anyone else who has the lucky situation to realize what many of us would surely like to attempt to do if we could! In one of your pictures it became clear to me what an incredibly diverse "garden" (of Eden by our standards!) you have created! Wow, truly impressive, both the size of the area you have under cultivation, but also the number of different strains and also the size of your greenhouse, is all really an excellent role-model to follow.

I asked myself, if you must not be in a country where it is legal to grow, with so many plants right out in the open as i find it hard to imagine growing illegally so totally open! I am not trying to ask indiscrete questions.don't worry, just thinking outloud! But seriously, with the kids nearly out of the house, and new found freedom just around the corner, if found out about places like that, I would seriously consider re-locating for the final phase of my life to enjoy spending the remainder of my days doing what all good seniors usually end up doing to pass the time - GARDENING!!!
Once again, Namaste and Thanks!

[Ganjasattva]

hey elmanito,

now that there is some fresh Parvati available, I can finally consider following in your footsteps and doing a Parvati X Yunnan cross! How did yours turn out? How would youdescribe the smoke and the effect?

[squeasel]

Cool stuff!
lovely plants want to smell a feild of them
soulds like looks like good plant to work with

[elmanito]

Ganjasattva, on 31 October 2012 - 03:47 PM, said:

hey elmanito,

now that there is some fresh Parvati available, I can finally consider following in your footsteps and doing a Parvati X Yunnan cross! How did yours turn out? How would youdescribe the smoke and the effect?

I still have some scissor hash untested, but most of the buds from those plants were ripped, while they were fully seeded.The plant on the photo above turned out to be a male, but a lovely one.Well i still have plenty of seeds.

To answer the question how was it possible to grow large amount of plants in the garden.For growing for seeds outside is still possible and male plants were growing all over the place.
In 2008 i had USO-31 growing in the garden, which is a legal hemp variety to grow within the EU.Birds like on the photo loved the seeds but they never touched the high THC plants.

[squeasel]

those are some very smart birds!!