Pyrgos greek ganja cultivar, at last Options

[Arnold Layne]

I am fairly sure it does still exist.
I smoked a variety on Cyprus back in the seventies which I am fairly sure may have been a Kalamata descendant.
It was being grown by a Turkish farmer, whose family had been growing it for generations.
It was head and shoulders above the rest in terms of potency and taste and appearance. As the Turks would say "Chok Guzel"

I'd grow it over modern Dutch stuff any day. No comparison in my book.

[Peace]

hey Gert,

You have your beliefs and i have mine. No need to argue about this.

i wish you luck trying to find the "ghost".

imho if such a strain existed, i m sure seedbanks or breeders would have found her by now and market it. The same way they have found strains in Pakistan, asia, india, the hymaleyas (sp?) etc.


Theres certain promising sativas in greece and i ve seen them grow wild for miles and miles next to rivers and get up to 7-8 feet in height, with buds up to 3-4ft in length (3 or 4 per plant). I m sure thers keepers between them.

are they Kalamata?

certainly i dont know

This post has been edited by Peace: Jun 29 2009, 09:28 AM

[_Gert Lush_]

No need to argue about this.

Not arguing mate, it's called 'discussion'. I think (hope) that's still alloewd under the TOU.

i wish you luck trying to find the "ghost".

Every good wish gratefully received, thanks.

imho if such a strain existed, i m sure seedbanks or breeders would have found her by now and market it.

I think you may be giving them a bit too much credit.
There's still stacks of quality strains out there undiscovered by the "market". In fact the "market" has been quite stagnant over the last 30 years (probably contributing to loss rather than gain of genetics), and it's only now, with new, small seed-banks and the establishment of good internet communications that some really "new" and exciting genetics are re-appearing.

If you think the Dutch market had it all sown up, then prepare for some pleasant surprises.

[Peace]

dont get me wrong, i m not a supporter of Dutch genetics Yeah i give them credit for many great strains, but now the ball is been played on many different fields around the world. Its not just the Dutch who make strains.

Especially in the west and canada. Myself, i do like canadian strains lately. Some great breeding takes place up there, by dedicated people.

Do you know why i think Kalamata is more of a myth, than a super variety with specific origins? Anything you grow outdoors in Greece in the summer, will turn out supper yummy. 4 month vegging periods, along with 3-4 month flowering periods. Add in the mix, total sunshine and dry RH and u got a killer combo to grow pretty much anything. Even 6 month flowering Asian sativas.

So, even a plain strain without "much" into her, will turn super nice if u grow it for so long on a sunny hillside.

In that area (kalamata) many were (and are) growing outdoor marijuana. They happened to have a local up-sativa with alot of laugh into her and still a nice stony buzz and marketed their crops accordingly as having the "super marijuana".

I m sure their genetics come from seed banks, not some some well hidden secret local variety. I might be wrong.

idk, if i make sense. Just stoned...

peace

EDIT: i do hope though that a Kalamata strain really exists and get marketed by smaller seedbnaks. I would definatly try it in my grow room, as long as i knew that it was the real thing.

Its the same with jamaican strains i guess. You gotta know that its the real thing not just another "label" on the package.



This post has been edited by Peace: Jun 29 2009, 12:36 PM

[bodderas]

I have been to Greece's Islands many of times I have been up north In Zante near Corfu and you could smell hash in the mountains everywhere but I just could not find it?.Someone told me that it was the Albainian Gypses that grew it round there whether its true I dunno.In the South Just past Crete is Rhodo's /Rhode's Island I smoke there every time I go, it all comes from the far south, Rhode's way past Lindo's ,and there are farms in the mountains near their.I have also seen the guy's who go out looking for crops growing in the summer/Autumn they are like police men dressed in orange/boiler suite's and they simply go raid crops I know this cos I happen to know one of them and he is a gud friend who live's on the island and guess what yes he always helps himself typical

[Ganja_Devotee]

All i can say to kind of validate the origin of my beans is this.
We have many friends in Greece and my wife has asked all of them , when something good like the Greek strains of the past come along to save some beans and send us.
Years had passed since we asked this particular friend who is from the Pellopenese and living in Patras, he is a guy who has been smoking for many many years and knows his Greek weed especially from his home area. He didn't consider anything he had had since we asked him worth sending, until he got this Pyrgos weed, which he said was similar to the Greek strains of 15 - 20 years ago and most certainly not the Albanian crap that floods the Greek market these days.

This post has been edited by Ganja_Devotee: Jul 8 2009, 12:55 PM