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#16 User is online   Lobo 

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 01:34 PM

Actually this is something I'm going to try.

I have the plant outside the tent in natural daylight. During the evening I can rig up a 30w cfl just to maintain the 12/12 schedule, then back in the tent for the dark period. The pot and saucer are sitting on a heatmat with some newspaper as insulation. I don't want the roots too cold at this stage.

I'll try this for a few days to see if it helps recovery.
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Posted 14 February 2012 - 05:13 PM

View Postmadgiz, on 13 February 2012 - 02:38 PM, said:

I think that plagron have changed their mix as the last batch...


Try to find the stuff in the new style bags,seems to be more consistent than the stuff in the old style grey bags.Used to find load of bits in it before they changed the bags.

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Posted 14 February 2012 - 05:21 PM

Too late mate but thanks all the same for the info but I have defected to JAB + JI lol
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Posted 14 February 2012 - 05:55 PM

Lobo I would give a one off feed of fish mix at 5ml per litre once the rootball is pretty dry, then get onto a normal feeding schedule.

Also remove N depleted leaves from the area as they can easily become infected when they are dying.
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Posted 14 February 2012 - 06:20 PM

Hey OT1 thanks for looking in, much appreciated.

OK 5ml you say, well seeing as I only gave the plant a root drench a few hours ago I guess I'll do another at the increased dose like you suggest.

I take it I was being too cautious here. Point taken.

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Posted 16 February 2012 - 07:12 AM

How are they looking now Lobo? Has the fishmix perked em up?
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 05:40 PM

Hi mate, well it's maybe still early days yet to see the full effect but I can tell you that the leaf shedding has stopped, still a few pale leaves at the bottom but nowhere near as bad as two days ago.

It is still very slow at taking liquid. I drenched two days ago and would expect the pot to be lighter than it is at the moment considering the size of the pot and the plant size and stage of develpoment.

There is no question they have been stunted by this affair but I have every confidence in fishmix and the hardiness of cannabis plants, and of course OT1's advice ;) Fishmix is bloody superb stuff really, some of the best plant food available I think but, never ever use it as a foliar feed indoors... lovely smell.

Cheers for the continued interest buddy. A couple more days and I hope to report a good result. Fingers crossed.
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Posted 16 February 2012 - 06:32 PM

Yeah I think they look better ;)

I had to level the canopy with books under the affected plants but here is my very busy looking DR60:

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Still a bit spindly looking compared to the coco plant at the back which is hard to see here.

My other complaint now is that I have three plants with completely different feed / watering schedules now :wallbash:

Well it keeps me busy at least
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Posted 17 February 2012 - 06:01 AM

They're looking happy now Lobo. :applause: Thanks for the update. I wonder if some decomposed shit in the compost was robbing the soil of nitrogen?
I love the fishmix too BTW. I would never have thought of feeding a high dose of it at that stage of flowering tho. I learn something new everyday on this site. Hats off to OT1.
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 10:47 PM

Thought I would throw in a little update here. This is kind of turning into a grumbling grow diary.

The plants are on day 19 of flower and buds are forming nicely if a little retarded on the batmix plants.

The two batmix plants. Plant on the right is / was the worst affected one.

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The recent Fishmix feed didn't really bring them back to full health but never the less stopped the majority of the leaf shedding. I have since given them a feed of OT bloom at 4ml / ltr and they are looking better but showing burning at the tips.

Now it's all still strange. The plants are still showing pale N def leaves with the odd leaf yellowing and dropping yet the tips of the leaves indicate that I am feeding them at the very limit. I should back off the feed slightly but intend to give them one more fishmix feed at 4 - 5ml / ltr then continue with bloom for the rest of the grow. They are drinking at a more normal rate now.

It's not all gloom as there is decent resin production and the lovely blues smell developing.
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Posted 01 March 2012 - 12:51 PM

just thought id throw in my 2 pence worth.

im using the same soil as you are with flora series nutes. the ph of the soil should be 6.5 ish as standard. i balanced the water i use to the same ph, feed with nutes and checked the run off. the ph had raised slightly to 6.8 but thats not too bad of a rise.
theres no fertilisers in that soil (main reason i chose it) so you shouldnt have any problems with it.
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to be honest the best way is to find a nutrient that you are happy with and follow the chart to the ml. ive always found that less is more when adding chemicals to the girls so if anything minus 10% of recomended uses.

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Posted 04 March 2012 - 11:46 PM

Hi law, I hadn't checked the thread for a while sorry i missed your post there.

I'm a bit confused, you say you are using batmix but then say there is no fertliser in it???

Batmix is one of the heaviest fetilised composts available. I did a soil PH test at the start of the problems and it came out very dark green/blue which indicates it was getting on towards a PH of 7.5 - 8.

My plants at the moment are holding on just about. Still yellowing and shedding leaves, I have them on 4ml of OT bloom to be increased to 5ml next feed I think.

Buds are forming though with nice crystals and lovely blues smell. As long as they can hold on to their foliage I should be ok, however yield is gonna be piss poor on these two.
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Posted 24 January 2013 - 05:02 PM

Thanks for this thread Lobo and everyones replies.

It's reinstalled a little confidence after two nightmare grows using Batmix.
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Posted 30 January 2013 - 10:37 PM

H & G do a good bat mix,ive never had any problems when ive used it,i tend to use fish mix and grow,normally peak at 2mls per ltr of each,gets my girls deep green,then i drop the grow back to 1ml through flower and peak bloom 3ml per ltr,and try fish mix as a foliar feed at lights off every three or four days up till 2nd week of flower,jus 1ml/2ml tops,seems to work for me!!good luck and may they become green again for you.....peace JM :yinyang:

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 04:36 PM

I wish I had your problems, they look mint mate. Ez SK
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