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Posted 06 March 2009 - 07:26 AM

Cheers for that Frank,

They dont look to bad now,and the fresh growth is nice and healthey.

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 09:47 PM

Hey, anyone know if this can be sprayed straight onto freshly taken cuttings?? Fighting a bad case of LSF so need all the help I can get..
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Posted 07 March 2009 - 09:02 AM

View PostDD2001, on Mar 6 2009, 10:16 PM, said:

Hey, anyone know if this can be sprayed straight onto freshly taken cuttings?? Fighting a bad case of LSF so need all the help I can get..
Thanks!!

Yes.
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A. You take a splinter off my cross, tie a few hairs to one end of it, dip the hairs into the pollen and lightly brush the pistils with it.
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Posted 07 March 2009 - 11:21 AM

Thanks mate, that's good news...
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Posted 08 March 2009 - 10:41 AM

Also, say I re-spray at four days the first few times (it's been bad) any adverse problems with doing it slightly more than as per instructions?? Thanks in advance...
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Posted 08 March 2009 - 03:36 PM

The best way is to spray the mother until she has clean shoots to take fresh cuttings from. ie spray her every 7 to 10 days, once all growth is clean a spray every 14 days is fine to maintain her.

Starting with infected unrooted cutting is not such a good scenario as the cuts have to deal with the stress of the infection and get rooted, remember more of the infection in internal to the plant and full recovery does not happen until the plant is rooted and growing normally again. if this is what you are starting from its not so good and full recovery will take longer than getting the mum well first..

Spraying them should put a stop to the active external fungal activity, you could repeat spray after 7 days to make sure. Then no more should be needed until new growth is seen.
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A. You take a splinter off my cross, tie a few hairs to one end of it, dip the hairs into the pollen and lightly brush the pistils with it.
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Posted 08 March 2009 - 04:51 PM

Hi. Thanks for the quick reply. My scenario is this, starting up after I had to take everything down for building work around the home. Being re-stocked by a freind who doesn't have LSF problem. Had clean cuttings from him but all slowly developed lsf probs when brought into my area. This happened more than once so I know it is my environment (which is clean - I think prob started when I made the mistake of running inake from outside during hot period). I am now down to three rooted 4-5 inch cuttings which I'd rather keep if poss. As there was quite a bit of damage to those before my essence arrived, there was not a lot of good growth - however since the first dose of essence there has been a spurt of green growth that is looking healthy at the moment. I was thinking that another dosing of essence to these now will protect the new growth before any chance of a reccurance(?). I will be getting new cuttings which I will spray as they enter my area (hence prev post) - just would rather hang onto these if possible. Perhaps cut down on the level of catalyst added to the brew??
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Posted 08 March 2009 - 05:33 PM

Ok it sounds like your 3 cuts are rooted, if they are growing away, they will be fine, don't choke them with love, I would not spray more often than every 7 to 10 days to protect new growth as its made.

As far as catalyst, well personally I would not use more than 1 or at max 1.5 ml per litre, its nearly 4 times the concentration of maxicrop and much more quickly plant available, its enough IMHO.
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Posted 08 March 2009 - 06:20 PM

Ok mate thanks for the advice - nice and quick from a more than reliable source. It's appreciated.
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Posted 08 March 2009 - 08:03 PM

Whats the best cheapest way of keeping the temps right for brewing as well no doubt been asked before.

Silly question ill go buy an aquarium heater 50watt one should be ok i guess :wink:

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Posted 08 March 2009 - 09:00 PM

I just warm the water, with seaweed extract and molasses mixed in to 35c, add the essence, bubble and leave by the ch boiler over night. It works for me.
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Posted 08 March 2009 - 09:30 PM

View Postoldtimer1, on Mar 8 2009, 09:29 PM, said:

I just warm the water, with seaweed extract and molasses mixed in to 35c, add the essence, bubble and leave by the ch boiler over night. It works for me.




Thanks ot1 i was getting paranoid it had to be constant 30c all night will try that out.
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Posted 08 March 2009 - 09:38 PM

Its not that critical, the maximum the weakest spores can cope with is 42c, 35c is good all round temp to germinate the majority, going lower once replicating only slows multiplication.
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Posted 08 March 2009 - 11:05 PM

View Postoldtimer1, on Mar 8 2009, 10:07 PM, said:

Its not that critical, the maximum the weakest spores can cope with is 42c, 35c is good all round temp to germinate the majority, going lower once replicating only slows multiplication.



Ok thanks for clearing that up , will mix some up in the next day or so as i don't want to spray with microbial mtu 5 weeks into flower.

I will put the rest into the soil once i have given them a good spray and hopefully they will be fine till the end of flower.
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Posted 08 March 2009 - 11:20 PM

View Postdjay, on Mar 8 2009, 11:34 PM, said:

Ok thanks for clearing that up , will mix some up in the next day or so as i don't want to spray with microbial mtu 5 weeks into flower.

I will put the rest into the soil once i have given them a good spray and hopefully they will be fine till the end of flower.

Good luck, it should hold things for you, depends on how long you have to go though.

Whats this rock dust thing, not heard about that, but then again I always seem to be the last to hear about anything. :yep:
Q. how do i make seeds?

A. You take a splinter off my cross, tie a few hairs to one end of it, dip the hairs into the pollen and lightly brush the pistils with it.
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