[Justinv]

Hey all. Been lurking and can't wait to grow!

I need to introduce myself, I had my first smoke from a friend earlier this year, I liked it a lot, was really chilled out, felt fluctuating calming jolts all over my body. So I got my own 8th and rolled with tobacco. Didn't feel anything after smoking the whole thing. 10 minutes later feeling dizzy the room was spinning and then my eyes were spinning and i vommed for a god 20 minutes. No high, no anything.
I finished the 8th over a few joints without tobacco and still nothing.

Anyway, brings me to now. I got new stuff, lemon skunk. I really hope I enjoy it, because I want to experience what this is all about before I start growing my own.

So please, can anybody give me advice to make the most out of this smoke. As crazy as it sounds, what should I expect as an amateur? Any tips of technique?

Thank you in advance. Been browsing for a bit and love the forum.

This post has been edited by Justinv: 22 November 2012 - 11:30 PM

[bubbleboy]

Justinv, on 22 November 2012 - 11:11 PM, said:

Hey all. Been lurking and can't wait to grow!

I need to introduce myself, I had my first smoke from a friend earlier this year, I liked it a lot, was really chilled out, felt fluctuating calming jolts all over my body. So I got my own 8th and rolled with tobacco. Didn't feel anything after smoking the whole thing. 10 minutes later feeling dizzy the room was spinning and then my eyes were spinning and i vommed for a god 20 minutes. No high, no anything.
I finished the 8th over a few joints without tobacco and still nothing.

Anyway, brings me to now. I got new stuff, lemon skunk. I really hope I enjoy it, because I want to experience what this is all about before I grow.

So please, can anybody give me advice to make the most out of this smoke. As crazy as it sounds, what should I expect as an amateur? Any tips of technique?

Thank you in advance. Been browsing for a bit and love the forum. expect to feel tripping with a lovely lemoney taste ooh yes not a big yeilder though

This post has been edited by bubbleboy: 22 November 2012 - 11:21 PM

[groovelick]

Do you normally smoke tobacco?

[Justinv]

smoked tobacco for a coupe of years and quit late 2011 because It was making me feel sick in winter. Funnily enough that still happens when I''m walking behind someone smoking on the street.

[groovelick]

The spinny head and feeling sick, are classic nicotine rush symptoms, if it was me, I would not be using baccy if you don't normally have it, try neaties but you would be best having it in four sittings, or consider a bong little sprinkle in it, hit it wait a bit have a little more till desired effect, don't get giddy at first and you'll be fine, the symptoms you describe are similar to a whitey.

This post has been edited by groovelick: 22 November 2012 - 11:44 PM

[bushmaster82]

Smoking is not for everybody, some people prefer to eat it or even turn it into alcohol based drinks.

Try adding it to cookie dough or a yogurt or even sprinkle some in a pan of warm milk, add chocolate and drink

There's a whole world of different techniques to try

[Eisenheim]

Hi, just started myself so despite nearing 60 I'm a fellow amateur. I used a Launch Box vape and felt sick on my first go (see 'Feeling Sick under Vape Heads).

I took some small amounts over the next week that really didn't do much but I was just acclimatising myself so to speak. I find I only need to take a pretty small amount to get high as my tolerance is pretty low. I use a vaporiser as I don't want to use tobacco. It has the added benefit that when my doctor asks, "do you smoke?" (I get asthma) I can honestly say no.

Don't forget tobacco is addictive.

[Seand]

I would agree that if you do not smoke tobacco normaly, avoid mixing your herb with it. If the joints are failing to do the trick, try a bong? A few pure hits on that and you should know about it.

[tengreenfingers]

I know someone who had used the herb a few times and wasn't sure if it was working or not. After a couple of goes in a safe environment when we got together for a bit of herb and discussing how it felt they got a much better effect. Now they get really quite high after not all that much.

I read something a while back that suggested people new to the herb might not initially react all that strongly to it. That it can take a few times out for your body to learn what to do with it. Could have been horse-shit but it fits with a couple of conversations I've had with others.

If you've quit tobacco, making a tobacco-cannabis blend to smoke is probably a fast track back to addiction to the cancer sticks. Watch yourself.

I'm a dyed-in-the-wool tobacco hater and only use it pure.

Some suggestions/questions:

Use it pure. I see no reason to blend it with tobacco unless you actually want the nicotine effects too.

How's your technique?
If you've used tobacco before I guess you're probably doing it right, but are you sure you're inhaling it properly?

Try a pipe.
I don't get on too well with rollies. I got a "shotgun" pipe and a couple of glass gauzes (don't wanna inhlale a metal one over time) from my local headshop and love it. Super easy to inhale properly and even small amounts have a good effect.

Consider a vape.
Like Eisenheim above I've got a Magic Flight Launch Box vapouriser. I find the high comes on more cleanly with it (presumably some of the combustion products interact with the high).

Eat it.
Like Bushmaster said there are plenty of ways of getting it inside you that don't involve the lungs. Use fats (milk, butter and the likes) that will absorb the cannabinoids (the plant resins that are the whole reason we use its flowers) for better delivery to your system. Just keep in mind that if it's not well dried and cured it will need heating to activate the THC. Eating fresh dealer-weed without heating it won't do much.


Try to notice what effect you *are* getting. Even if it's simply a case of you felt miserable before and now feel "normal" - this can be surprisingly difficult to notice as it's kinda taking something away rather than adding something. I've had that a good few times with the sativa (Lemon Haze) I've got in one of my 2 little jars (the other is Blue Dream - an Indica).

Your mood to start with plays a part. I bought the 2 strains above and both have profoundly different effects depending on how I was at the start.
If I start feeling wound up, the Blue Dream calms me to normal... and the Lemon Haze leaves me in an intense but smiling mood.
If I start feeling normal, the Blue Dream nails me down... and the Lemon Haze gives me a very buzzy head, fast thoughts and a massive grin.
If I start feeling down, the Blue Dream dulls things down and sends me to sleep... and the Lemon Haze lifts me up to a point marginally above normal with just a slight grin.

It's all down to how I feel and what I use. Something to consider.

This post has been edited by tengreenfingers: 23 November 2012 - 03:46 PM

[Justinv]

Thanks for all the replies. I rolled pure and had no immediate effects. Went for a shower afterwards though (morning) and started feeling quite heavy and not in full control of my limbs. When I got out I could walk fine and everything but I felt I had to tell me body what to do. I just relaxed a bit and before I knew it I was back to normal.
I also had a go at lightbulb vape because it was so cold outside. Never had any effect from it but I was only using .2g per try.

Might roll one up soon and hopefully get there.

[iBMe]

Try a pipe or a bong, vaporisers are the most efficient but expensive, I think you get like 90% of the thc compared to about 50% from a bong, or 30% from a spliff.

This post has been edited by iBMe: 28 November 2012 - 10:58 PM

[Sir Sausage]

Nicotine hit is horrible, I can't deal with it.

I either smoke pure or use edibles. Smoke if I want an instant hit and depending on the weed, to enjoy the taste. If I want a long lasting buzz I'll eat, plus it's healthier than taking burnt plant matter into your lungs. The buzz comes on slowly when eating, it's very nice

Really need to get a vape tbh but ain't got the spoons.

This post has been edited by Sir Sausage: 05 December 2012 - 04:05 PM

[Hiko]

people who are used to smoking joints with tobacco feel there is something missing from joints rolled without or any other method which does not include nicotine

nicotine is a stimulant, so it's possible the nicotine cancelled the high, it's also possible the weed you got was crap and you were just spun on the baccy

try it in a pure spliff but maybe try using cigarette sized papers at first like the americans use, a big fat pure in a kingsize is a lot of joint to smoke - one had me off in la-la land (properly) for 12 hours, didn't say a word despite being at a social gathering, and i'm a highly experienced smoker (albeit, mixed with tobacco) and i didn't even finish it... not even close

You could also try a bong but i recommend getting a perc (percolator) bong and if possible fitting a precooler or precooler bowl - the extra chambers really cool and smooth the smoke down, and a small precooler chamber is much easier to clean than a 2 foot tube. The precooler will get gunked up real fast but stops the main tube from getting dirty so fast. do not buy one made of any material other than glass, no rubber, no acrylic, and definitely no anodised metals.. some people swear by acrylic bongs but as far as i can see the only benefit in a sea of drawbacks is they're harder to break.

but try a pure joint first.

[StevieRays]

Get a pipe or bong, no point in using tobacco if you are not already addicted to it. If you do make a pure joint it will only take a few tokes and you should be fucked.

This post has been edited by StevieRays: 27 December 2012 - 09:09 AM

[avant]

Ditch the baccy, get a vape :-)