[RealMed]

I haven't flowered the Otto #1 yet, I am thinking of putting them into 12/12 tonight, the Harlequin I grew out out tested at 9.77% CBD and 4.81 THC as I can't smoke I can't really say how smokes.. AS to how it works a little Head high and just gets a smile on my face.. I also noticed it got me up and doing things like I haven't been able or felt like doing in a long time.. I do have lower back problems, and until today my back hasn't gone out in two months, best two months I have had in three years and I do credit CBD for that!! Today I just bent over wrong as I wasn't thinking and twisted my back but do find when my back hurts is does help but doesn't knock me out like some of the other strains I use. I am really excited to flower out Otto #1 and hope I get a CBD with very little THC to test if not the CBD/THC is really nice too. So far I really like the Otto #1 as it's been very easy to grow.

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As for Sativex I am always warey of massive pharmaceutical company's that have held medicines back for profit

I so agree OG, and think it's funny how our Gov. says Cannabis has no Medical use in it's raw form but will let a pharmaceutical company extract CBD and THC and ok it for a med. I don't know how they Extract CBD/THC but I rather use a plant I grew over something that God knows what was used to Extract that heat or eating it can do with out any Chems!!

[RealMed]

Well after trying Harlequin CBD for my back after it hasn't gone out in two months I can Say It still hurts but NOTHING like it was and even able to get up and do things when normally I would be doing nothing for at lest three days. No the pain isn't gone but it sure isn't like it was. Better then a lot of things I have tried!

[Tomas]

Hello RealMed,

I did analyse 26 Otto#1 plants (young plants) - and only had 1 high CBD plant. Sadly this one is a male.... :-(

All others were high THC or something like 2:1 1:1 1:2.

I know testing as young plants is not the best thing, but I don't have the space and don't want to grow THC plants.

My experience is, if young plants show THC spots - THC gets much more within flowering. So I don't give plants like that a chance...

(I even wouldn't know what to do with this THC weed, I don't smoke)

I learned my lesson... no more tests until a seedbank offers a high CBD low THC strain...

Hope this is going to happen soon

[Arbuscule]

Arnold Layne, on 01 April 2012 - 07:54 AM, said:

original-glass, on 01 April 2012 - 07:31 AM, said:

I would definitely recommend for patients looking for a pain relief

What kind of pain are you experiencing, and how long have you been experiencing it?

I only ask, because going by your report, this is not a strain that I would find much benefit from. I have chronic pain from Spinal Stenosis (lumbar plus cervical), with peripheral neuropathy as well, plus arthritis. CBD does not usually touch it, at all, Nothing does, cannabis wise.

I still use cannabis as medicine, I just don't expect it to kill pain, because it never does. I smoke for the mind diverting potency of THC, which helps me forget the pain and focus on more positive things. It also potentiates the Opioids I use. Which is good.

CBD just sends me into a depressive spiral with a headache on top, usually. Judging from Sativex, and some hash said to be high CBDbollox too.

(I'm going to grow some "CBD Shark", I doubt it will be much good, but it might. I just can't get round to planting it though, it just sees to me like some kind of ugly duckling in the nest.)

...and it is because of post like this sir. THIS IS WHY WE CALL YOU THE GENERAL old chap sounds a bit like me. I know I should plant high cbd strains. I have some there but I have more exciting plans courtesy of ot1. I have plans for lot#5evolution and smellyberry though. I'm thinking the pleasure plan will win


I'm a bit like you Arn I wanna fly so high that it would be ludicrous to have ms, as that would imply having a body that's flying


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I should very much like a tentfulllof evolution and squirrel away with my volcano, sending my brain out for a kinda soaring wander

This post has been edited by Arbuscule: 05 April 2012 - 03:39 AM

[RealMed]

Tomas, on 05 April 2012 - 02:53 AM, said:

Hello RealMed,

I did analyse 26 Otto#1 plants (young plants) - and only had 1 high CBD plant. Sadly this one is a male.... :-(

All others were high THC or something like 2:1 1:1 1:2.

I know testing as young plants is not the best thing, but I don't have the space and don't want to grow THC plants.

My experience is, if young plants show THC spots - THC gets much more within flowering. So I don't give plants like that a chance...

(I even wouldn't know what to do with this THC weed, I don't smoke)

I learned my lesson... no more tests until a seedbank offers a high CBD low THC strain...

Hope this is going to happen soon

If I find a male that's only CBD I will be very happy as I plan on breeding it to a Harlequin cut. It really isn't hard to breed for CBD and I really don't understand why no seed Co. hasn't came out with one yet. TBH that is part of my plan, People with seizure, and me with Asthma I think would benefit from High CBD with very little THC. The 1.1 or 2.1 most people like as they still get the head high and the CBD helps with the Body, I don't always want to be high to feel better..

CBD is a Co-dom so if you would have kept the male and breed it to a 2.1 girl 50% of the seeds would have been high CBD and low THC. I will test my Males when I know there sex in hopes to find a CBD Male.

I had to say that my back feels much better today but yesterday Harlequin did help and it lasted a lot longer then I thought it would, about 6 hours before I started hurting bad enough to stop me! I haven't had anything yet but am getting ready to as I have to much work to do today to stop from a little pain..

This post has been edited by RealMed: 05 April 2012 - 04:20 PM

[Tomas]

Hey RealMed,

I know I know... it "should" be easy.... I researched a lot and tried a lot... think its a just a thing that I had no luck in my case...

I changed my plans - did I say I killed the male? :-)

Yes I could have crossed it with a 1:1 or 2:1 female... but I'm soooo tired crossing, waiting for seeds, testing again... time and money - no more nerves for that! (testing is very expensive and my psychological disease goes through the roof atm)

The problem is , that the Otto#1 are F1 hybrids, and the outcome can be everything mixed from the parents before...

now my plan is the same - but the genetics seem to be very promising!

One more thing I'm doing now is:

- Cross the high CBD Otto#1 with CBD Crew Critical Mass and CBD Crew Skunk Haze
(so I should have one more indica dominant and one more sative dominant mix afterwards)

lets say the Otto#1 has 2 CBD alleles - and the CBD Crew strains 1 THC and 1 CBD allele

The offspring of the CBD Crew seeds is a high CBD Cannatonic (I think) + their strains.

so theoretical - the chance for the new seeds should be about 50% for a high CBD plant... theoretically...

And the seeds could produce everything from cannatonic to cirtical mass to otto#1 - with all kinds of variation... but I'm no biologist - I'm not sure.

My fuel is hope.

Hope it is like that... I need medicine asap

Btw - I tried to make oil from industrial hemp buds again. This time I allowed the solvent to be in contact with the material - for longer period of time (noramally 2 washes with 3 minutes each- is enough)- and I used lot more legal industrial hemp bud. It can make sense if you can handle the ugly flavor and have enough money for those buds... its expensive, too. From about 20 ounces I had about 12gr Oil left.

But this oil has a very different condition- its very hard... it stinks... it tastes so bad... think ayuasca is much more enjoyable...

I tried it first time today - and I'm very very excited - I feel much much better - relaxed... less depressed, less stressed, less anxiety...

Last weeks I often was on the brink to go to crazy house...

I have to test it some more days... sadly for my condition one should use 400mg CBD/day minimum - but less has also effect.

All the best

[RealMed]

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lets say the Otto#1 has 2 CBD alleles - and the CBD Crew strains 1 THC and 1 CBD allele

The offspring of the CBD Crew seeds is a high CBD Cannatonic (I think) + their strains.

so theoretical - the chance for the new seeds should be about 50% for a high CBD plant... theoretically...

Yes your right on with that 50% should be high CBD little THC and the others should be about. 2.1 or 1.1
But as you got rid of the male that had 2 CBD genes, breeding a 1 CBD to a 1 CBD gene plant will be 25% CBD little THC 50% 2.1 1.1 and 25% high THC little CBD. Yes testing is expensive that's why I am only going to test my males looking for a 2 gene CBD male or a 2.1 male to breed from knowing what I want is going to take me some time to breed what I want...

[Tomas]

so... my first test with this industrial hemp bud was OK - felt much better - relaxed - less anxiety - less feeling of stress - even less depressed...

seccond test: using about 200mg within a capsule - some hours later eveything OK - one more 200mg capsule before nighttime...

wait... what is that? damn....oooo shhhhhhhhh - this was nothing good!

I have two explanations for that: 1. few thc - perhaps enough for people like me (even if CBD is much higher about7-15 times within industrialhemp)
2. perhaps so much other stuffs beside CBD and THC.. perhaps CBN .... whichdon't do me any good.

I called the ambulance - the worst thing I ever experienced for 7 years! And I never ever called an Ambulance!

A doc came to see me first, before we think about going to cracy house... and all he did was giving me high dose lorazepam (benzo) + valium (benzo)+ a syringe in the ass (don't know what kind of stuff this was)

Damn this was some of my hope... but seems like the THC within those industrial hemp buds - is still too high to me.

But I'm going on with my journey and try to find a possible way to produce a ratio of 50:1 or so and give that a try.

The best would be- if there would be a possibility to separatae THC from CBD.

Regards

[RealMed]

I really don't know what to say, where you get your hemp was it Organic or do you know?, could be the THC in it but I have no real idea as I not you, I just hope that I can do the CBD breeding and in a few years have seeds with High CBD with very little THC. I just flipped the Otto #1's , I haven't got the CMH light yet but need to get them sexed and test the males..

This post has been edited by RealMed: 08 April 2012 - 03:50 PM