[GreenNinja]

Thanks for the extensive reply PM.

I don't want to ruin this thread, so I'll start a new one to continue this discussion.

GN

(could a mod please move my main response and the rest over to the new thread when I start it...will link here in a mo, cheers

new thread here

This post has been edited by GreenNinja: 04 September 2009 - 04:39 PM

[mellofello]

Hey PM

Thanks for putting up a feed schedule but I'm afraid it doesn't help me. I was looking for a rough dilution range so that I can judge how much I need to buy. For example I know that I mix 2-4 ml of canna coco a+b for each litre and I know roughly what EC that will give me. However I've never used your nutes before so I've no idea how much I might need to mix to reach the desired EC.

Maybe I'm missing something but that schedule isn't very helpful to me atleast. I'm afraid I have to agree with green ninja that you guys haven't really made the nutes seem appealing by having such a lack of information available. I'm only saying this as you lost a sale because I wasn't sure of much to do with these nutes so ended up starting another round with all canna. Not that you should be bothered about losing my individual sale but I'm sure pleanty of other people are the same who don't want to take big risks when there are jars that need to be filled.

peace

mello

[Bush Dr]

These are the best coco nutrients out there, I was reluctant to follow the feed schedule due to the high N level, however the budsites started filling realy early and the overall health of the plants rates as some of the best I've seen

I grow using run-to-waste, so use volumetric measures and haven't found the Bloom feed too strong

I use the Grow at 1/2 strength and everyone loves it

I instead of P/K 13/14 I use 9/18 and the results so far are in favour of the 9/18, bigger, fuller flowers

This is a White Force at 17 days flower


I'll post more during next week when I harvest some

BD

[kynes]

Don't know if plant magic is still monitoring these but I gave the coco a+b a go and here's my issues.

It takes 50% more plant magic feed to reach a given ec than it does of canna coco feed, making plant magic much less value for money.

When added to water with a 0 ec, plant magic will read 4.3 pH(way off) at 1.5 EC, and canna will read 5.6(spot on). Sure all I've got to do is add a load of pH up but it leaves non beneficial chemicals in the nutrient solution which I'd rather avoid

I'm not trying to stick my head up cannas arse, I would rather support a UK company if the product was as good. This is just constructive criticism.

[scraglor]

what's all the indissolvable shit in the coco nutes? it keeps clogging up the filter on my res pump

[taffy]

Getting to the end with my hesi nutes and i was thinking of going to Plant Magic, this thread is mostly putting me right off at the moment though.
I would rather support a U.K. firm.

Should i go with pm or should i try Growers Ark?

Help!

taffy

[scraglor]

the plant magic nutes do make for some very healthy plants, and they seem to stay stable in my res, ph, ec wise. but there's very fine particulates in the solution, that after a few days start to clog the foam filter on my pump, it's not tooo bad a problem, but it means i have to keep unclogging the filter (it is a very small pump that just recirculates water round the res to keep it moving, a bigger pump wouldn't suffer so much) but it's still a pita. you'd think what is essentially a hydro nute wouldn't have anything insoluble in it

This post has been edited by scraglor: 28 August 2010 - 07:59 AM

[scraglor]

kynes, on May 19 2010, 04:27 PM, said:

Don't know if plant magic is still monitoring these but I gave the coco a+b a go and here's my issues.

It takes 50% more plant magic feed to reach a given ec than it does of canna coco feed, making plant magic much less value for money.

When added to water with a 0 ec, plant magic will read 4.3 pH(way off) at 1.5 EC, and canna will read 5.6(spot on). Sure all I've got to do is add a load of pH up but it leaves non beneficial chemicals in the nutrient solution which I'd rather avoid

I'm not trying to stick my head up cannas arse, I would rather support a UK company if the product was as good. This is just constructive criticism.

to be fair mate, plant magic have specified that this nutrient is made especially for uk water, not RO water. uk tap water is much harder than european water, so the ph buffer level is low. so really this is down to you misusing the nutes

[oldtimer1]

scraglor, on Aug 25 2010, 08:21 PM, said:

what's all the indissolvable shit in the coco nutes? it keeps clogging up the filter on my res pump

scraglor I'm seeing the PM crew next w/e, I'll ask them about your problem if they have not popped in here and answered before, I'm not up on chem based nutrients, its not my thing.

I know the coco nutrients are not suitable for static reservoir systems such as wilma's as the humates will precipitate out of suspension where as pure chemical salt fertiliser salt won't, this can be overcome in wilma type systems by adding a small t reservoir circulation pump to keep the tank content constantly stirred, but the nutrients should be fine in an active hydro system. I don't know if this helps?

[scraglor]

oldtimer1, on Aug 28 2010, 09:53 AM, said:

scraglor, on Aug 25 2010, 08:21 PM, said:

what's all the indissolvable shit in the coco nutes? it keeps clogging up the filter on my res pump

scraglor I'm seeing the PM crew next w/e, I'll ask them about your problem if they have not popped in here and answered before, I'm not up on chem based nutrients, its not my thing.

I know the coco nutrients are not suitable for static reservoir systems such as wilma's as the humates will precipitate out of suspension where as pure chemical salt fertiliser salt won't, this can be overcome in wilma type systems by adding a small t reservoir circulation pump to keep the tank content constantly stirred, but the nutrients should be fine in an active hydro system. I don't know if this helps?

thanks ot, that is actually the problem, i have a passive hydro system (autopots), for which i have a small pump to keep the res circulating, and the particulates block the filter on the pump, and also the little foam filter that feeds the autopots. it's not too much of a problem because it's not an active system, so if the pump stops pumping then no real harm done (like you say, the stuff will just settle at the bottom of the res) and the foam filter feeding the autpots, does clog up, but never to the point whre water can't get to the pots (but only because the pump stops working and all the particulates settle at the bottom of the res ) but if the system relied on the pump, it would definitely be a problem!

This post has been edited by scraglor: 29 August 2010 - 07:12 AM

[bizzaro]

nearly bought the range today but upon realisin there is 4 bottles in total for grow n bloom(a n b for grow and a n b for bloom) it span me out a tad,..ended up wi canna again.

[bigbudburge]

Can't go wrong with canna biz I've tried vitalink,,H &G an canna ... Canna always gives the best results