[Graywolf]

Twice now I have supplied cannabis oil to colon cancer patients and when they showed up for surgery 30 days later, the cancer was gone. The first time, they found only bad diverticulitis, and the radiologist and two oncologists decided that they must have misread the film.

Here is a report from another trial, where I furnished Holy Shit for one colon cancer patient, whom found it too discombobulating and passed it on to another colon cancer patient:

"I'd like to report that a friends father was told he had a massive tumor in his colon...I contacted Gray and he furnished me a bottle to assist the man...actually it was for XXXX but she couldn't tollerate it...my friends dad had surgery to remove the tumor but it had shrunk to nothing in the 30 days he hammered the 62 tincture...he is completley convinced this is what saved him...the doctors are baffled...thanks to the wonderful people on the island "

This post has been edited by Graywolf: 16 January 2012 - 04:41 PM

[hydro2]

Have seen docs & films about the positive effects on Canna curing Cancer, one chap documented his progress with oil extract & showed picture proof of the oil drawing the Cancer to the surface of his nose & destroying it. I believe this(& this is only my opinion)is another reason the government won't legalise Cannabis because this in turn would lengthen life expectancy thus causing a bigger strain on the country.

I may be wrong.
Hydro2

[mallsy]

 hydro2, on 16 January 2012 - 05:32 PM, said:

Have seen docs & films about the positive effects on Canna curing Cancer, one chap documented his progress with oil extract & showed picture proof of the oil drawing the Cancer to the surface of his nose & destroying it. I believe this(& this is only my opinion)is another reason the government won't legalise Cannabis because this in turn would lengthen life expectancy thus causing a bigger strain on the country.

I may be wrong.
Hydro2

your right as far as im concerned

[Boojum]

Making claims like cannabis cures colon cancer is irresponsible.

Sorry, but it is.

Unless you can prove it in a proper scientific test, under controlled conditions then all you are doing is giving ammunition to the prohibitionists. Cannabis loony makes crazy claims...

[madgiz]

 Boojum, on 16 January 2012 - 05:51 PM, said:

Making claims like cannabis cures colon cancer is irresponsible.

Yep that pretty much says in a nutshell what I was about to post..

[Artificial Emotion]

Unfortunately I have to say I agree with Boojum. The reason it is irresponsible is because cancer sufferers might read the post and decide to stop treatment that we know can work for a treatment who's efficacy has only been proven anecdotally (not counting invitro research in a petri dish or in rats/mice). The problem is that people who aren't scientists will take research showing how cannabinoids can kill of cancer cells oustide the body as proof that it is a cure for cancer when this couldn't be further from the truth.

This post has been edited by Artificial Emotion: 16 January 2012 - 06:02 PM

[compostverte]

Yep - bad science makes as as bad as the opposition.

[vince noir rock n roll star]

 Artificial Emotion, on 16 January 2012 - 05:59 PM, said:

Unfortunately I have to say I agree with Boojum. The reason it is irresponsible is because cancer sufferers might read the post and decide to stop treatment that we know can work for a treatment who's efficacy has only been proven anecdotally (not counting invitro research in a petri dish or in rats/mice). The problem is that people who aren't scientists will take research showing how cannabinoids can kill of cancer cells oustide the body as proof that it is a cure for cancer when this couldn't be further from the truth.

your answer is the very reason we chose not to go solely the oil route with my wifes treatment ..cannabis butter served well with the neuro pain and healing ,and the surgeons and oncologists are amazed at her cancer not spreading from 4 lymph nodes enough to request a sample of canna butter .but we couldnt just put our faith into one treatment .

i posted about this on fb btw and at first was given crap by rick simpson and his followers for not having faith in the oil ..i told him its illegal here and getting enough starting material to work with isnt easy ,again i was derided for not trying to find enough oil ..if its your loved i hope you accept all the help going when it comes to tumours and cancer when it strikes ..and then see how your faiths get tested .

[Mikey Ledge]

So true. its a case of ok whats the battle plan? Their treatment and my treatment. I took the chemo and left out the anti sickness pills and steroids filled the gap with mighty spliffs. But the best medecine is hope so its good to see any daft story about fighting cancer, when ya just about hanging on it just helps, for me anyway

[Puff Adder]

Legal or not I have made a promise to myself that should anyone I hold dear develop cancer I will cultivate enough MJ to make plenty of cannabis oil with which to give them. It should always be the individual's choice whether to be treated e.g. with chemotherapy, etc. But my offer will stand. Personally I would without doubt give it a go for myself should I end up in such a situation. I can say that having seen what radiation treatment does to some people I would more than likely opt not to go that route even if it did mean my chances of survival were drastically reduced. Each to their own though.

[charas]

 Boojum, on 16 January 2012 - 05:51 PM, said:

Making claims like cannabis cures colon cancer is irresponsible.

Sorry, but it is.

Unless you can prove it in a proper scientific test, under controlled conditions then all you are doing is giving ammunition to the prohibitionists. Cannabis loony makes crazy claims...

+1

i have just seen another thread on a different canna forum, exactly the same only a bit longer,with a few more post by GW, claims skin cancer to be his first success. (Google it)
Reminds me of the old westerns with the bottles of miracle cure alls.
I am a follower of Rick Simpson, and would love to believe, but these sorts of claims should not be made, not without, real proof, someone looking for 'big ups' on a forum is just in bad taste and wrong.


C

Sorry ,but this is a very touchy subject, with me.

This post has been edited by charas: 16 January 2012 - 07:03 PM

[dazey]

Whilst absolutely believing in the healing/beneficial properties of cannabis, and having every respect for those able & willing to produce & distribute the oil in an altruistic sense, I have to say that I think the OP is making an outrageous claim. Hope is indeed a major factor in a person's recovery, but false hope of a 'cure', and within 30 days, is, imho, going too far.

[Hughie Green]

Nothing to do with any lack of faith of cannabis as a beneficial herb,which it undoubtedly is, it is a lack of faith in accurate
and realistic reporting from people whom have an agenda every bit as fraudulent as the prohibitionist claims of harm,
until there is actual proof instead of anecdote then making such claims is as Booj says irresponsible, going straight for
the cannabis did it routine ignores a host of other inputs including the placebo effect, this is not to say do not try it or use
it as your illness dictates but singling out cannabis as a cure for something is as spurious as singling it out as a cause for something as prohibitionists do.

[Eddiesilence]

Let's not forget that the alternative 'cancer cure' industry rests on entirely false beliefs about cancer anyway. The sentence 'cannabis cures cancer' is medically absurd, and reveals profound ignorance, because cancer is not one disease.

Cancers come in a myriad of different forms, and differ radically in severity and prognosis. They have a variety of causes, some even viral. Some cancers are preventable, other cancers are more esoteric in terms of their risk factors. But *most* cancers are eminently treatable.

Cancer cure quackery relies on ignorance of the above. It relies on a terrifying belief in the monolith: 'Big C', stalking silently among us, striking us down in waves.

True, certain forms of cancer can ruthlessly and rapidly snuff out lives, but that is the extreme end of the spectrum. Framing cancer as a single-minded, lethal, behemoth - as we used to characterise it in the 1960's - sows panic and fuels an industry grounded in deception and greed.

I had a sarcoma removed fifteen years ago. I'm fine.

This post has been edited by Eddiesilence: 16 January 2012 - 09:54 PM

[Boojum]

 Eddiesilence, on 16 January 2012 - 09:45 PM, said:

Let's not forget that the alternative 'cancer cure' industry rests on entirely false beliefs about cancer anyway. The sentence 'cannabis cures cancer' is medically absurd, and reveals profound ignorance, because cancer is not one disease.

Cancers come in a myriad of different forms, and differ radically in severity and prognosis. They have a variety of causes, some even viral. Some cancers are preventable, other cancers are more esoteric in terms of their risk factors. But *most* cancers are eminently treatable.

Cancer cure quackery relies on ignorance of the above. It relies on a terrifying belief in the monolith: 'Big C', stalking silently among us, striking us down in waves.

True, certain forms of cancer can ruthlessly and rapidly snuff out lives, but that is the extreme end of the spectrum. Framing cancer as a single-minded, lethal, behemoth - as we used to characterise it in the 1960's - sows panic and fuels an industry grounded in deception and greed.

I had a sarcoma removed fifteen years ago. I'm fine.

Yeah man, but, like, it's all the chemicals they make us eat and drink, right ?

They cause the cancer.

So if we just stop eating processed food and go on a vegan diet and loads of wheatgrass we will live forever.