[Stonerbobagain]

It isn't the same thing, PR has no hope of becoming PM obviously and his party has no hope of ever being elected. No one is under the illusion that that will happen. His character will never be under the same scrutiny by the press because he is nowhere near important enough. All that CLEAR can do is very limited, but in what they can...for example providing information to the public and general campaigning for awareness, progress can be made, and I think already has to some extent. (In terms of CLEAR over LCA) If PR had to step down I fear this progress would stop and we would be stuck back in to the stagnant years of the LCA.

[Ishmael]

Stonerbobagain, on 19 January 2012 - 06:12 PM, said:

It isn't the same thing, PR has no hope of becoming PM obviously and his party has no hope of ever being elected. No one is under the illusion that that will happen. His character will never be under the same scrutiny by the press because he is nowhere near important enough. All that CLEAR can do is very limited, but in what they can...for example providing information to the public and general campaigning for awareness, progress can be made, and I think already has to some extent. (In terms of CLEAR over LCA) If PR had to step down I fear this progress would stop and we would be stuck back in to the stagnant years of the LCA.

Are we not hoping for perhaps a TV interview at a public meeting? Someone sticks a mic in his face and says, can we just get one thing clear Mr Reynolds, when you said we should destroy Afghanistan with a nuclear blast were you serious?

SO he says, well I'm representing a single issue party here, I'm not trying to be PM, can we stick to the cannabis issue, and the reporter goes, But weren't you voted politician of the year recently? Mr Reynolds, which of your statements are to be taken seriously and which are not?

Man the closer we get to a change in the law, the more likely that scenario would become.

Can you not see that the man's a liability?

This post has been edited by Ishmael: 19 January 2012 - 06:19 PM

[Eddiesilence]

Stonerbobagain, on 19 January 2012 - 06:12 PM, said:

If PR had to step down I fear this progress would stop and we would be stuck back in to the stagnant years of the LCA.

If a racist, homophobic, misogynistic, antisemitic, Islamophobic - Christ, he's even Bovingdonophobic - political-extremist has to step down, we'll be back to a stalemate, so we should keep him. Is that right?

This post has been edited by Eddiesilence: 19 January 2012 - 06:17 PM

[Tevion]

Hitler didn't mean to upset anyone when he wrote mein campff by the way! Oh and he's sorry about the way things turned out for the Jews!

FFS are there's still people out there that are this fuckin thick pmpl.

Bring back the Nuremberg trials, even better some of these imbecilic fuckwits really should go and read them and then go and read how Hitler gained popularity at the expense of minority groups then perhaps they will see similarities!

Even better they do a history thing on the UK channel Yesterday because many of these tits probably can't feckin read!

This post has been edited by Tevion: 19 January 2012 - 06:18 PM

[potlosophy]

Stonerbobagain, on 19 January 2012 - 06:12 PM, said:

It isn't the same thing, PR has no hope of becoming PM obviously and his party has no hope of ever being elected. No one is under the illusion that that will happen. His character will never be under the same scrutiny by the press because he is nowhere near important enough. All that CLEAR can do is very limited, but in what they can...for example providing information to the public and general campaigning for awareness, progress can be made, and I think already has to some extent. (In terms of CLEAR over LCA) If PR had to step down I fear this progress would stop and we would be stuck back in to the stagnant years of the LCA.

ffs yes it is! hes the leader of a political party ........ as for no hope of becoming prime minister well linford christie wouldnt have got anywhere with that attitude.

seriously though his bigoted views are doing this cause no favours!?

[trex]

Re: Peter Reynolds being a grass, when I posted this:



...he sent me this email from his official CLEAR email address:



When I asked him what steps he was going to take, he said banning me from posting on CLEAR, reporting my posts to facebook as abuse (which he did, which almost resulted in me losing my account - I'm disabled, and use facebook as a lifeline), and he also threatened to take out a court injunction preventing me from voicing an opinion re: CLEAR.

I believe that he would quite happily grass someone up to get them busted if it would silence their criticism against him. Scientology did a similar thing to me back in the day to stop me from protesting against them...

[Stonerbobagain]

Did he say that about Afghanistan somewhere else or did you mean the articles where he talks about Pakistan? Those two articles are the ones I take most issue with, but I still think his folly has been overstated. That final article on the first post does not prove him to be a misogynist or a homophobe...If anyone can provide me with any evidence showing him to be I will listen.

[Eddiesilence]

Stonerbobagain, on 19 January 2012 - 06:31 PM, said:

Did he say that about Afghanistan somewhere else or did you mean the articles where he talks about Pakistan? Those two articles are the ones I take most issue with, but I still think his folly has been overstated. That final article on the first post does not prove him to be a misogynist or a homophobe...If anyone can provide me with any evidence showing him to be I will listen.

Read a bit more than that, and you'll get an overview of his political thought. Read his blog, it's mirrored/saved in various places. He typically posts defences of the BNP, random right-wing politician fan worship, several blog posts on the theme of "Aren't Our Police Wonderful" (that's an actual title, really), extremely brutal posts in favour of Third-Reich style criminal justice,('they should be castrated, dragged naked through the streets and lynched' to paraphrase the man), populist posts characterising women as shagging their way to the top and/or being empty-headed 'nutters'. It's all there, the full range of BNP neo-Nazi content. And it is neo-Nazi content. Do read it.

This post has been edited by Eddiesilence: 19 January 2012 - 06:39 PM

[trex]

I found the thread where he threatened me with court action for harassment:

[Eddiesilence]

Wow, trex - "...with power of arrest."

Imagine you'd had a grow on. That'd shut you up. What a grassy knob he is.

e2a: have you still got that link to the archived blog for Stonerbobagain to check out?

This post has been edited by Eddiesilence: 19 January 2012 - 06:43 PM

[Stonerbobagain]

Where is it accessible? He has taken his blog off line. I think it is up to people who have cached copies to post them, otherwise I can only read the ones that have been posted on this thread, which have yet to convince me. Although I gotta say, saying that if Pakistan flooded it would be no worse than noah's arc scenario...I must object.

[trex]

Eddiesilence, on 19 January 2012 - 06:40 PM, said:

Wow, trex - "...with power of arrest."

Imagine you'd had a grow on. That'd shut you up. What a grassy knob he is.

I'm not growing, nor am I supplying meds for other people any more, but I still have stuff at home. I have a freezer full of cannabutter and cannachocs, and various amounts of processed trim. If I were to be arrested at my home by rookie coppers, then they would bust me for any cannabis that they see. I know, as it has happened to me before.

So yeah, it has stopped me from directly questioning or criticising him.

It's nice to see that democracy is alive and well in CLEAR.

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e2a: have you still got that link to the archived blog for Stonerbobagain to check out?

I've just re-uploaded it to here hxxp://www.mediafire.com/?2n3gvyotp307f2v

This post has been edited by trex: 19 January 2012 - 06:49 PM

[Thom]

sunshine band, on 19 January 2012 - 05:15 PM, said:

People keep saying he grassed to the police, but I have asked for evidence from several people and all I have seen are threats to inform the 'authorities' about alleged flaming on FB.

I remember even the Politics UK Facebook posting a message saying any posts related to Peter Reynolds had to be taken down as a police investigation was ongoing. Anyone know whatever happened to that??

[trex]

Thom, on 19 January 2012 - 06:56 PM, said:

I remember even the Politics UK Facebook posting a message saying any posts related to Peter Reynolds had to be taken down as a police investigation was ongoing. Anyone know whatever happened to that??

Peter Reynolds informed the admin of PoliticsUK that there was a police investigation regarding harassment, libel and abuse, and that posts on the PoliticsUK wall (including some of mine) were being used as evidence.

The admin consulted his legal expert, and the decision was to temporarily ban any mention of Peter Reynolds on their wall.

It has since been discovered that Peter lied to the admin of Politics UK, and that there is no police investigation (Chris Bovey confronted Peter directly about this issue, and Peter admitted that there was no police investigation). Peter lied to censor the fuck out of a very interesting discussion on there.

This post has been edited by trex: 19 January 2012 - 07:01 PM

[Stonerbobagain]

Haha, that thread, can't you see that you are pretty much harassing him? I don't think he should have pressed charges but your conduct of repeatedly drilling him with questions which actually have insults in them and pointless leading questions is too much and I could imagine must be quite difficult to deal with. I'm not going to download that file because I'm scared it might contain something as nasty as some of the attitudes that have been expressed here. (And I don't just mean Peter's writings...wahey) It's probably fine but there are some genuinely nasty people here who won't hear a word against their own opinions and I've already shown some affinity for the wrong side so I'm not taking any chances, nothing personal.