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Jhs Variac Build 1 or 2 fan controller Rate Topic: ***** 5 Votes

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Posted 14 November 2010 - 07:11 PM

Thanks for that info scraglor, and yeah i see it now. lol

I came into possesion of an ELIWELL EWDR 905/T it looks like it could be used on a future build ???
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Posted 14 November 2010 - 09:17 PM

cheers scraglor lol
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Posted 13 January 2011 - 04:52 PM

Thanks bluecheese. Sorry to be a bit thick, is one variac for the extraction and the other for the intake ? Can you have one variac for the tick over for both fans and another variac to set the speed for when the thermo kicks in ? I've got the kit but baffled at the moment.

eta Just looked again and it seems that you have separate variacs for each fan and then a relay which switches both fans to full when the thermostat kicks in , is that right ?

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Posted 14 January 2011 - 02:01 AM

View Posttroy, on Jan 13 2011, 05:21 PM, said:

Thanks bluecheese. Sorry to be a bit thick, is one variac for the extraction and the other for the intake ? Can you have one variac for the tick over for both fans and another variac to set the speed for when the thermo kicks in ? I've got the kit but baffled at the moment.

eta Just looked again and it seems that you have separate variacs for each fan and then a relay which switches both fans to full when the thermostat kicks in , is that right ?


exactly like that :smoke: :rofl:


at the moment tho, i changed one of the 0.75 variacs for a 1A variac, it was running hot when set to 40-50% so i upgraded :smokin:
the new variac works a treat with my 6" hp ruck, got it set to 45% just now & the temps are a stable 76f.

on another thread Davey Jones recommended not setting a variac below 66%, i'lll need to ask him & find out why ?



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Posted 14 January 2011 - 12:00 PM

Hooray, i'm not so thick after all. Thanks hogger, what about rasta jedi's version ? How does his work ?
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Posted 14 January 2011 - 06:50 PM

View PostJoint hogger, on Jan 14 2011, 02:30 AM, said:

View Posttroy, on Jan 13 2011, 05:21 PM, said:

Thanks bluecheese. Sorry to be a bit thick, is one variac for the extraction and the other for the intake ? Can you have one variac for the tick over for both fans and another variac to set the speed for when the thermo kicks in ? I've got the kit but baffled at the moment.

eta Just looked again and it seems that you have separate variacs for each fan and then a relay which switches both fans to full when the thermostat kicks in , is that right ?


exactly like that :wink: :rofl:


at the moment tho, i changed one of the 0.75 variacs for a 1A variac, it was running hot when set to 40-50% so i upgraded :offtopic:
the new variac works a treat with my 6" hp ruck, got it set to 45% just now & the temps are a stable 76f.

on another thread Davey Jones recommended not setting a variac below 66%, i'lll need to ask him & find out why ?



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really?? it was probably me, and saying 30% ;)

at 30% the fan is moving pretty slowly, and it's the minimum voltage rvk recommends there fans to be run at, at a 100v, a fan is producing around 2 pascals of pressure lol so not worth going any lower anyway. when you reduce the voltage to a fan, as well as slowing the fan, the fan heats up, the fan uses the air flowing over it too self cool it, if you slow it so much that airflow is virtually non existent, then this is bad for your fan (and of course, why run a fan at all, if it's so slow it's barely moving any air )
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Posted 15 January 2011 - 01:51 PM

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rj's controller only controls one fan at two preset speeds i believe, to control two fans separately you'll either need another separate thermostat (not ideal because they wont switch on and off perfectly at the same temps) or a relay, best bet is to get yourself a relay. then you wire it so the thermostat switches the relay on, and the relay then switches both of the variacs perfectly in tandem


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Posted 15 January 2011 - 03:28 PM

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Posted 15 January 2011 - 06:05 PM

View PostBen_R, on Jan 15 2011, 04:17 PM, said:

View Posttroy, on Jan 15 2011, 03:57 PM, said:

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Do they have the male spade connectors on them?



Do you want me to order them for you as well :unsure:
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Posted 15 January 2011 - 06:37 PM

Think I'll give this a go. Was considering the Ecotechnics Evo but there seems to be too many things that can go wrong with it. This seems simple and robust.

So the variacs control 1 fan each, and the thermostat switches both on when the temp goes above the setting?

Was looking at the SMS fan controller its £95 but i suspect this makes the fans hum?
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Posted 15 January 2011 - 08:22 PM

benr, the 0.75a & 1a variac (model 1f-1) have the connector spades for 6.3mm lucus spade connectors, if you need new female connectors, theyre cheap at maplins.
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Posted 16 January 2011 - 01:22 PM

View PostBen_R, on Jan 15 2011, 06:42 PM, said:

View Posttroy, on Jan 15 2011, 06:34 PM, said:

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View Posttroy, on Jan 15 2011, 03:57 PM, said:

wattbits


Do they have the male spade connectors on them?



Do you want me to order them for you as well lol


As my current one is wired up to accept male spade connectors I'd rather replace like for like so it's as straight forward as possible. Now if you could roll me a joint and pass it over it would be appreciated :rofl:

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Think I'll give this a go. Was considering the Ecotechnics Evo but there seems to be too many things that can go wrong with it. This seems simple and robust.

So the variacs control 1 fan each, and the thermostat switches both on when the temp goes above the setting?

Was looking at the SMS fan controller its £95 but i suspect this makes the fans hum?



Mine hums, but some people say no , it may depend on what fan you use.

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 07:59 PM

Nearly got all the bits, but I can't find a box that will house 2 variacs for less than £30.

Anybody know any good sources?
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Posted 11 February 2011 - 10:43 PM

View Poststigz, on 25 January 2011 - 07:59 PM, said:

Nearly got all the bits, but I can't find a box that will house 2 variacs for less than £30.

Anybody know any good sources?


Check out fleabay and type in weatherbox. Be careful on size of the variacs your using! If it's 2* 2amp it's gonna be tight in there.

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Posted 03 March 2011 - 06:24 PM

I'm planing on building one of these beauty's but my worry is. I don't want the fan to kick in to full power when temps rise. (thinking of the neighbours hearing the noise. So how do you set it so the fan never kicks into full power
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