[passintime]

I'v just purchased my second bag of Pm soil thats been full of nasty bugs! Both times from greens
Cant believe i'v just germed all my Smellyberrys FFS. They was even squashed all over the boxes from in the van
Anyone else found unwanted guest's?
Really gutted Love n' Light pT

[highgrower]

Had a few bags over a few years from greens and always been fine. I get the gnats in compost from b&q or a garden center which has kept them outside

[mrweed]

Same as highgrower really,I had that problem with b&q stuff which is why I switched to PM, never had a problem since.

[~nobody~]

That's unlucky, I've never had a problem with PM soil and I've only ever bought it from Greens.

[Floyd]

Never experienced or hear of this before regarding MP compost, odd imo

[distracted]

if your left over compost from your last grow had bugs in as you said in your other thread http://www.uk420.com...9 then how do you know the new compost was contaminated? and how do you know that the issue isn't with how you have stored the old stuff? I brought vine weevil into my grow from a outside stored old bag of compost, how do you store yours

This post has been edited by distracted: 15 May 2012 - 08:22 PM

[d_n_b]

Had a few bags of pm soil from greens and all had springtails I know there not bad but wtf the last time I bought pm soil is from a different supplier because greens were sold out and everything is fine make wonder how they stock the bags

[Amnesia]

PM has always been fantastic and i've used it for lots of grows now, how can you be sure they were present in the soil?, there could be unwanted visitors in your room or as distracted said it could be from where you stored it.
Hope you get it sorted anyhow.

[Joint hogger]

i've had springtails for the last 6 month & i use pm soil too,
open & sealed bags are kept inside a wardrobe in the spare room, ordered from greens.

[AlbertScroggins]

being unsure of springtails, so googled an found a david attenbourough clip


e2a sorry to hear of bug prob OP

This post has been edited by AlbertScroggins: 15 May 2012 - 08:46 PM

[d_n_b]

Joint hogger, on 15 May 2012 - 08:25 PM, said:

i've had springtails for the last 6 month & i use pm soil too,
open & sealed bags are kept inside a wardrobe in the spare room, ordered from greens.

So it's not just me then don't think I'm gonna order my soil from them any more always were my number 1 supplier greens but this just proves it

[HazyDaze]

Funny nuff...

I have been noticing a few ickle bugs in my veg room, tiny little things that appear near bottom of pot it seems as i pick it up one oe 2 little white looking dots i see crawling, very small they are..

Never had/noticed before with PM soil but i did buy a new bag a wk or so back and only noticed the bugs since then..

Matter of fact i spotted the fookers a day after potting up into new soil..

Hmmmmm.....

[Amnesia]

I did have springtails once a while back but not seen any for the last couple of grows, using PM soil but I've never had any fungus gnats or anything with this soil.

[Joint hogger]

d_n_b, on 15 May 2012 - 09:00 PM, said:

Joint hogger, on 15 May 2012 - 08:25 PM, said:

i've had springtails for the last 6 month & i use pm soil too,
open & sealed bags are kept inside a wardrobe in the spare room, ordered from greens.

So it's not just me then don't think I'm gonna order my soil from them any more always were my number 1 supplier greens but this just proves it

its not necessarily Greens or PMs soil thats to fault, it might just be a coincidence we've both got springtails.

Owderb pointed out before that certain critters live in house's & are easy to get carried
into your house from outside by you or by a pet, think we need more folk to check their soil when watering,
springtails aren't hard to miss

[Nautica]

d_n_b, on 15 May 2012 - 09:00 PM, said:

Joint hogger, on 15 May 2012 - 08:25 PM, said:

i've had springtails for the last 6 month & i use pm soil too,
open & sealed bags are kept inside a wardrobe in the spare room, ordered from greens.

So it's not just me then don't think I'm gonna order my soil from them any more always were my number 1 supplier greens but this just proves it

The chances of Springtail contamination coming from Green's are pretty much zero. The soil there is stored inside dry warehouse units on pallets and pallet racking, not outside like at garden centres. There is no plant material or natural habitat for the Springtail anywhere near them and with the amount of soil they sell the soil will only be in their warehouse for a few days at a time.

The Sprintail would have to cross a wide, dry, concrete car park and jump up onto a bag of heavily compressed soil (if they could get to it through the pallet wrap) and then get inside the soil through a tiny hole and start to reproduce.

Pretty much impossible.

The two most likely sources of contamination are either from the manufacturer of the soil or brought in on your own clothes or pets. Even the delivery driver is a potential source, he or she will be in and out of gardens all day delivering parcels.

Blaming Green's is the natural reaction as the soil was bought from them, but in reality the Springtails were either in the soil before they got it or came along afterwards.

Nautica

This post has been edited by Nautica: 16 May 2012 - 02:18 AM