Hi guys ,

im starting to save for my kit, (i need £550) and it would be nice to buy as
i go along from germinating to veging then flowering.
This means i can grow as i buy and thus saving time for my 1st crop.

So my question is:

What from the below should i buy (in order of use) from A) Germinating Veging C) Flowering?

Please help on this , it will be much appreciated.


Hydrotek Lighting 400W Hammer Profile Reflector with Mirror Finish, Remote Ballast and Osram Plantastar HPS bulb. £95
Nutrilculture 205 Gro-Tank 27.5" X 15.25" x 7.25 with submersible pump, capillary matting,pH test kit and detailed instructions. £40
Flouro's £ ?
Standard Mylar 1m x 1.2m £2 x 5 £10 for 5m x 6m
Grodan Large Cuttings Seed Cubes x 24 £3.75
7.5cm (3 inch) Grodan Transplanting Cubes x 8 x 2 £2.80 > £5.60
Lti Extractor Fans 5" RVK125 A1 240m3/hour £90
Fan Mounting Bracket £6.50
Carbon Filter CF 240 £90.00
Aluminium Flexible Fan Ducting 125mm/5" x 5 = £16.00
24 hour Mechanical Timer £11.50
1 x 125mm/5" Jubilee Clip £1.60
Ezi Roll Light Hanger Set £15.00
Fan Speed controler £26
Humidity Dial £3.50
Nutrient Measuring Syringe 20ml £1.10
Light Contactor £32
Roll of Gaffer Duct Tape £3.75
9" desk Top Fan £15.00

Food:

CLonex Rooting gel £3.75
Formulex 500mls £2.50
Canna Vega / Flour 2litres £20
Canna PK 13/14 500mls £8.45
pH Down - 1 Litre £8.95
Oxy-Plus 250mls £3.25

+ Thermometer £2
+ Early Durban £21.95
+ Epsom salts £1.35 (Boots)

P.s. how much are flouro's to veg for 3 or 4 plants? cheers.

Rizla

This post has been edited by [PTJ]Rizla+: Apr 10 2003, 09:15 AM

any chance of some help here ?

As a first timer I would save myself some cash and some sanity

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Nutrilculture 205 Gro-Tank 27.5" X 15.25" x 7.25 with submersible pump, capillary matting,pH test kit and detailed instructions. £40 Grodan Large Cuttings Seed Cubes x 24 £3.75 7.5cm (3 inch) Grodan Transplanting Cubes x 8 x 2 £2.80 > £5.60

6 x 10 ltr pots and a couple of bags of John Innes saves you about 40 quid

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Fan Mounting Bracket £6.50 Carbon Filter CF 240 £90.00

A carbon filter will slow your extraction down to a crawl and isn't really needed if you get your inlet/fan position/outlet set up properly and suspending your Lti Extractor from bungees instead of the supplied bracket will eliminate any vibration noise.

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1 x 125mm/5" Jubilee Clip £1.60

If you buy a carbon filter you'll need two of these
One to attach your ducting to the collar on the filter and one to secure the ducting to the fan

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24 hour Mechanical Timer £11.50

About a fiver from Argos

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Ezi Roll Light Hanger Set £15.00

Two lengths of chain and a couple of 'S' hooks from B+Q for about a fiver.

You can easily knock a good £150 of your shopping list and still grow some kick ass weed

{sigh} If we must

OK, first off, you need to get your room built. No point in getting your plants germinated and then discovering that you have nowhere to put them.

You have mylar on your list. Mylar is the best thing for reflection, but it is NOT LIGHTPROOF, and is very easily damaged, and about twice the price of normal white plastic
Build your main grow area with white plastic and wooden batons, and then stick a few sheets of mylar to the inside to increase the reflection if you really need to.

Knowing that cost is a problem for you at the moment, you can leave things like the carbon filter till later. Just get your ducting in place to start with, build the room and make sure its light sealed ect. The carbon filter can be added later on, when you have some cash and when you really need it.

Do not get the fan mounting bracket either. Bungees or tights are much better at stopping any vibration and are a lot cheaper. Same goes for the light hanging setup - 2 eye hooks and some sash cord from b&q will do the job so much better, and for a fraction of the price

Once your grow area is built, you will need:

A propagator for your seedlings
Small rockwool cubes to plant the seeds in
a light source - personally I use high output flouro's (about 100 quid, but gives out almost 10,000 lumens), but for seeds, a bank of normal flouro's will do, although you might get some stretch unless you can get the lights well close to the propagator.
A bottle of Formulex. You do not need it right away, because the seed contains enough food for the plant initially, but once you start getting a few sets of leaves, you should damp the cubes down with a weak (1/4 or 1/2 strength) solution
The seeds.

Got a question though - are you planning on having a seperate mother area, to do your vegging in?
Might be an idea. If you can pick up a chest of drawers, you can make a nice little stealth vegging room in it.
There is a link for one somewhere (i think Wilbur did a really good one once), but i can't be arsed to dig it out right now.

After about 4 - 6 weeks, your babies should have germinated and be beginning to look like proper plants. Do not make the mistake of taking em out of the propagator too soon. Wait until you have roots coming right out of the rockwool cube.
Once they have reached this state, you have to make a choice as to how you are going to proceed.

You can either stick the lot under your main light, in the NFT table, veg them for another couple of months (until they are mature) and then flower them, or you could put them in pots, transfer them to your stealth mother cupboard, and then take cuttings from the females once you had sexed them for your NFT table.

Cheers Joolz, ill stick with the NTF for the moment but ill impliment the majority of the rest.

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A carbon filter will slow your extraction down to a crawl and isn't really needed if you get your inlet/fan position/outlet set up properly and suspending your Lti Extractor from bungees instead of the supplied bracket will eliminate any vibration noise.

I need one of these though i need to disperse of the odour, so ill have the lti inside the GR , ducting outside to the carbon filter outside then more ducting from the filter, this should work ?


Hi omh,

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You have mylar on your list. Mylar is the best thing for reflection, but it is NOT LIGHTPROOF, and is very easily damaged, and about twice the price of normal white plastic Build your main grow area with white plastic and wooden batons, and then stick a few sheets of mylar to the inside to increase the reflection if you really need to.

Rgr! im building my growroom 6ft * 6ft , ill have a small veging area, a small area for 1 mother and 1 large area for flowering. , ill build the wooden frame 1st then add white sheeting, then maylar inside as you've advised.

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Bungees or tights are much better at stopping any vibration and are a lot cheaper

will ur missus go buy them for me ? j/k

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Got a question though - are you planning on having a seperate mother area, to do your vegging in?

as above ill have a small veging area, a small area for 1 mother for cuttings and 1 large area for flowering


Thanks m8

This post has been edited by [PTJ]Rizla+: Apr 10 2003, 12:47 PM

Ill draw you a pic and post it here, give me a cpl hours fella