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Topping Outdoors, Why?

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Hi everyone, so I always wondered but never asked why. 

 

So see a bunch of GG topping their girls. Now I understand the reasons for doing so. 

 

My confusion is why is this done outdoors?  The concept in a controlled environment means we get more sunlight exposure to the lower leaves which means multiple budding sites. 

 

But that's generally when your lights are directly over the top. 

 

Naturally GG doesn't have the same limitations sunlight in penetrative all around, so those second set of leaves are still getting sun without have the main stem cut. 

 

So my question is why top at all outdoors? Or is it normally simply to control height? 

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Reduce height. Smaller bud sites to reduce chance of mould. That’s two off top of my head.

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Less chance of mould

 

Owd

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Topping, LSTing, training outdoors for me is the difference between ounces and pounds, as i don't grow many plants I find it really helps my yeild, and all the above reasons mentioned :yep:

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Jeez, it didn't occur to me that topping would decrease chance of mould.. Doh! Plain and simple though I guess, shorter plants and smaller bud sites are easier to inspect and will retain less moisture throughout the day.. Interesting that you got the answer twice instantly, yet I don't think I've ever seen anyone suggest this to be the primary reason they top outdoors in a GG diary. On the contrary, I've seen a couple discussions about whether topping/fimming and generally exposing vulnerable plant tissues to the elements may increase chance of mould... Looks like I'll have to grow some bushes next year!

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And that's my question answered lol I never considered mould aspect thankyou all

 

Next year il top some of em :)

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2 hours ago, cappilio said:

And that's my question answered lol I never considered mould aspect thankyou all

 

Next year il top some of em :)

Come Oct mould will be something you consider all the time

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14 minutes ago, ocb said:

Come Oct mould will be something you consider all the time

 

dont get me wrong i consider mould in general .... well for my photo's at least, my autos are normally done before it can get hold.

but i never tigged topping would help reduce the chances of it occuring.

 

jus tthought people were doing it for yield

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I'd advise against topping as the stem could easily split with some strong wind. Lst has the same effect but actually makes the plant stronger due to the added anchor point... If done well. 

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I’m with flighty on that one, if you’re in a windy area where the girls can get a proper battering from the weather keep em as nature intended else they can cleave apart in the gales. 
 

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Yeah, always leave to grow naturally for guerrilla...  Garden grow would be different...  

 

Something I remember dan doing to stop topped plants spitting was to wrap round the two branches with gaffa tape a few inches above the join.  

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6 hours ago, Amarillo slim said:

Yeah, always leave to grow naturally for guerrilla...  Garden grow would be different...  

 

Something I remember dan doing to stop topped plants spitting was to wrap round the two branches with gaffa tape a few inches above the join.  

I agree, I don't top my geurrilla girls unless they have been started early indoors and trained. The smaller buds can help with rot but on the flip side, the plants are generally more bushy so less airflow. I'm also a believer that the Xmas tree shape helps it to naturally shed water. I haven't read that anywhere, just makes sense imo.. last year my biggest girl (gorilla haze) was left 'au naturel' and got huge. I'm sure you've all seen the pic I've posted numerous times in different threads, well that got a big split in it. One of the main branches (was basically a plant of its own) broke away at the start of flower. I gaffa taped It, tied it with twine and luckily had these plastic ties with me. Did the trick. The branch didn't die.. unfortunately due to wet weather she never made it home tho..large.reduced_Screenshot_2019-09-22-02-19-17_04955.jpglarge.reduced_Screenshot_2019-08-17-16-33-53_07812.jpgjobs a goodun!

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2 hours ago, ocb said:

I agree, I don't top my geurrilla girls unless they have been started early indoors and trained. The smaller buds can help with rot but on the flip side, the plants are generally more bushy so less airflow. I'm also a believer that the Xmas tree shape helps it to naturally shed water. I haven't read that anywhere, just makes sense imo.. last year my biggest girl (gorilla haze) was left 'au naturel' and got huge. I'm sure you've all seen the pic I've posted numerous times in different threads, well that got a big split in it. One of the main branches (was basically a plant of its own) broke away at the start of flower. I gaffa taped It, tied it with twine and luckily had these plastic ties with me. Did the trick. The branch didn't die.. unfortunately due to wet weather she never made it home tho..large.reduced_Screenshot_2019-09-22-02-19-17_04955.jpglarge.reduced_Screenshot_2019-08-17-16-33-53_07812.jpgjobs a goodun!

Peace

Amazing how resiliant they can be iv had worse that survived, indoors anyway 

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On 05/07/2020 at 0:25 PM, Amarillo slim said:

Yeah, always leave to grow naturally for guerrilla...  Garden grow would be different...  

 

Something I remember dan doing to stop topped plants spitting was to wrap round the two branches with gaffa tape a few inches above the join.  

I remember somebody on here, eelhelmet or elephant face I think (always got them mixed up) tying the 4 or 8 or whatever together to make a circle of twine when seen from above, i copied it and it worked, though you’d want a good mould resistant strain as all that chafing can bring the stem rot. 
 

My grow bud  gets some good results from topping in our shared inland sheltered spots but most of my plots are on the coast so can get a proper battering.

 

 

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bend them over tie them down, better bud development and airflow. Much less likely to snap than topping. Just make sure you secure the base/ stem in opposite direction from bend

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