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lolaszek

fed up with searchs , please help LEDS.

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Hi,

 

Looking for decent LEDS in UK for DS60 (0,6x0,6x1,4) will plant 2 pineapple express and 2 gorilla propably scrog or lst .

 

 

Was thinking of MARS Hydro 400 or other chinese panels therefore I am willing to pay up to 200 pounds for decent panel.

 

Was thinking of COB Citizen 058 leds , can someone recommend someone who does panels ? I found an offer back home , without delivery man is asking for 180 pounds for

 

 

 

I can get this panel and deliver it to UK but I am sure there are smart guys in UK that willing to do smth like this ,

 

 

 

I ve found

 

 

but it seems to be a bit pricey , please let me know - also found those budmaster 2 price is over 400 but guy at gumtree claims he wanted to sell one for half price, are they any good or better get cobs ?

 

I am totally new to LEDS and I cant make a panel myself ...

 

 

The panel from the 1st link claims to cover 80x80 area but it has regulation so I can use less power when plants will reach high.

 

 

 

 

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Why LED ?

Do you have masses of cash going spare ?

 

EDIT :- Oh I see - low headroom.

Any reason why you couldn't go higher ?

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Box is 140cm thats is first thing , I had HPS before and I dont like the cost and heat - also I am fascinated with LEDS and other options are not the case.

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High there dude, 

With limited head room you might be better looking at a vertical scrog, like zztops dose. You'll need a bulb tho.

 

As for led, HLG is all you need to know, 300 watt panels less than £300,delivered. 

Jj:yinyang:

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HPS are by far the most effective lights - both in terms of cost and heat output per useful amount of light delivered - unless you go high end with LED or are only growing lettuce.

The key problem with LEDs is knowing what you're actually getting - everything specified in "Chinese watts" - or claiming ludicrous equivalence with HID.

 

That area would suit a 250 watt HPS - so I would be looking for an LED panel with the same actual electrical wattage - so quite likely it will have something silly like "500" or more in the name.

My only experience is with multiple teeny LEDs for seedlings and early veg growth.

If I was forced to use them for actual flowering and harvesting I would want something at the very least with under-run 5 watt LEDs - if not 50 watt COBs.

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Those HLG panels look interesting - only half watt LEDs - seem to be growing plenty of vegetation in the company's videos ...

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4 minutes ago, Jibba jabba said:

High there dude, 

With limited head room you might be better looking at a vertical scrog, like zztops dose. You'll need a bulb tho.

 

As for led, HLG is all you need to know, 300 watt panels less than £300,delivered. 

Jj:yinyang:

 

 

Hi dude , thanks for help, I will investigate but +200 is a limit for me - vertical scrog is something I have seen on back home's forum and I think I can manage it , buds I ordered are autos but still quite high - lst can be done for 3 plants but if I go for 4 plants to provide enough space vertical scrog might be necessary and also a good idea. I think I will rather go 3 plants to keep some space for 3 plant's germination . In the future - when I get some more experience , for germination I am planing to put a LED strip (price is problem) or a single  led bulb to give a bit advantage for little ones IF NECESSARY . Am still looking and investigating therefore I am happy to have a rapid answers from you guys .

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I thoroughly recommend 3560 white strip for seedlings and young plants - under £3 from China I've been running some continuously for the best part of a year now and wouldn't go back to CFLs even if they were still available cheaply.

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Your growspace isn't a million miles from what I started with - I used four 4 foot  / 40 watt linear fluorescents vertically and wrapped my plants around them - worked amazingly well considering - perhaps I need to recreate that with LED strips - it would take two or three 5 metre strips.

My space was a little bigger in area, but I eventually ran a 250 watt HPS in it - under 5 feet in height - no proper ventilation though :o

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Just now, cultivateur said:

I thoroughly recommend 3560 white strip for seedlings and young plants - under £3 from China I've been running some continuously for the best part of a year now.

 

 

 

Yeah , I will think about it when the time will come but the idea of it seems to be legit - I would rather go for some blue light for vegetation but I am not into spectrums and all that .

 

 

In respect of HLG's I cant find anything for the price you have suggested.  Some people growing up 100-120 grams well trimmed buds from 3 plants under cheap china leds , I dont want to go for MARS if I can put additional 60-100 quid to have some better option.

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Just now, cultivateur said:

Your growspace isn't a million miles from what I started with - I used four 4 foot  / 40 watt linear fluorescents vertically and wrapped my plants around them - worked amazingly well considering - perhaps I need to recreate that with LED strips - it would take two or three 5 metre strips.

My space was a little bigger in area, but I eventually ran a 250 watt HPS in it - under 5 feet in height - no proper ventilation though :o

 

 

 

 

 

When I first grow on hps 100w and 40x40 box I had 2 plants and ventilation was a problem - I dont wanna do it again ,

 

 

Now for my box am planning - passive bot , gorilla mixing fan inside , a proper extractor like black orchid or smth - for the bloom I will add carbon filter .

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Growing only in winter helps massively - you then end up with the opposite problem.

You've got me dreaming up an LED growing system with water cooling being used to deliver waste heat to the root zone :)

 

EDIT:- ventilation is primarily to supply the plants with CO2 - get that right and waste heat from lamps is almost irrelevant - though HPS delivers more IR out the front ...

(I should know - I get crap yields from lack of a hurricane blowing through the grow.

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33 minutes ago, cultivateur said:

Growing only in winter helps massively - you then end up with the opposite problem.

You've got me dreaming up an LED growing system with water cooling being used to deliver waste heat to the root zone :)

 

EDIT:- ventilation is primarily to supply the plants with CO2 - get that right and waste heat from lamps is almost irrelevant - though HPS delivers more IR out the front ...

(I should know - I get crap yields from lack of a hurricane blowing through the grow.

 

 

 

 

Its true, I only had mixing one inside without any air circulation - temperatures in the morning after whole night were reaching +33 :O plants had a tough start but surprisingly when I put another two PC vents the temp dropped down to 23-25 .

 

Also mixing vent is important in early stages - blowing directly on plants helping them improve their stability and healthiness .

 

Well, idea of cooling LEDS with water that can somehow heat the plant would be nice .

 

 

 

 

 

 

EDIT . CAN SOMEONE ADVICE ON 1ST LINK PRODUCT ,

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So this is a genuine-looking 133 electrical watt growlight designed to emulate an HID ...

Let's assume it is as effective as a 150 watt HPS ..

What is the benefit ? Apart from an improved spectrum over an HPS ?

 

 

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I dont know, I was hoping to get an answer , am totally new to LEDs but this is my only option.  I am totally confused ;)

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