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Bigste313

First grow , rhino ryder , incredible bulk, bluematic, royal dwarf ,

Hello everyone ,

I am a first time grower i thought would start a journal and update weekly hopefully till harvest. Heres some info on my setup

SPACE - walk in closet thing. Floor space 4 ft x 1.5 feet height is around 4 foot total then theres a shelf lighting is on underside, filter on shelf itself .

SUBSTRATE - plant magic supreme

NUTES - plant magic , grow , bloom , root granuals ( 20g per pot ) , bio silicone and , mag if needed.

FILTRATION - 6" rhino hobby vented into loft space .

LIGHTING - 2 x mars 300 led light units well will be as of tomorrow :) ( plus birthday end of week hopefully order my 3rd ) so will be 280w actual draw and 420w if i get the 3rd panel over the comin week

4 x cfl 125w daylight bulbs ( not all running because of heat issues but are there if needed ) i will probably run what cfl i can heat permitting along side the panels.

AIR MOVEMENT - 2 x 6" clip on fans

WATER- gassed of for 24 hrs with airpump tap water

PLANTS - planted straight from seed strains are incredible bulk and rhino ryder from gorilla seeds both start 3 rd week veg tomorrow rhino just hitting pre flower now , no sign on the bulk as yet but its growing well !

Royal queen seeds bluematic and royal dwarf these are starting second week veg tomorrow ( note i start my veg count from first small group of leaves not the initial pop of them )

Here is a pic although having trouble putting on this thread? So heres a link

http://www.uk420.com/boards/index.php?app=galleryℑ=350735

Royal dwarf on the far left then the rhino then the bulk (noticibly bigger ) then the bluematic.

As already stated this is my first ever grow thought maybe start a journal so members can follow to check out strains maybe, or maybe just help me out as and when i may need it . Am not expecting miracles from this first grow but if i grow enough to justify my running costs and initial setup costs i be happy . Hopefully get enough to tie me over until my next harvest and i can dump the dealer.

I have 4 plants and aiming for 4 oz , time will tell i suppose either way am pretty sure am at the best place to be :) any suggestions etc good or bad will be takin on board and hopefully we can have a laugh along the way .

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LIGHTING - 2 x mars 300 led light units well will be as of tomorrow :) .

I just ordered a 3rd unit will have the 3 mars units along side each other by the weekend 420w actual draw in my 4ft x 1.5ft grow space

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Ok so 3rd unit arrived yesterday now have 3 x mars 300 in my space, problem now temperature ... Its just hovering around 30.3 ... Way i see it i have 3options unless anybody can advise something different ??

Option 1 - open vent up further in the door although the bright red lights are leaking through it now even with the air vent cover on so am 50/50 on this option as bigger hole will mean even more light leaking into room ( red lights are bang on man !!! )

Option 2 - inline fan running ducting from air vent in door ( pain in the arse ducting everywere etc )

Or option 3 - just buy another rhino hobby 6" with a 6" inline and get a ducting "Y" splitter and run the 2 at same time creating more neg pressure thus sucking more cold air into grow space. Although this be most expensive option it will cover me for smells if one carbon fan breaks or that when am not around. And will at same time double my rate of heat extraction .

AM i just chasing my tail here guys ? Are temps just over 30 really that bad for veg / flowering ? Am i in a ok position already an worrying unnecessarily??

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I am no expert ... not even planted yet :D but I am sure 30 will be fine for a auto as this is what I plan on starting with also using mars just try keeping it around 30 max .... please keep posting too as I can follow your journey ;)

i think you may run out of space being your biggest problem

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I found my problem . My rhino hobby i bought as a full kit the filter itself is rated 600m3 ph and the fan that came with it is only rated at just over 250m3 ( before it has to pull through filter . So it has been giving far from adequate heat extraction ) Just ordered a new inline fan for 40 quid rated at 550 m3 per hour . Hopefully this will sort it out :)

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I am no expert ... not even planted yet :D but I am sure 30 will be fine for a auto as this is what I plan on starting with also using mars just try keeping it around 30 max .... please keep posting too as I can follow your journey ;)

i think you may run out of space being your biggest problem

Yeh cheers lanky , space will be an issue i think just being forst grow its knowing what to expect , plant extra incase lose a plant or 2 along the journey. Next grow i am thinking on just 2 plants tbh . And will keep this post updated dont worry .

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great stuff yeah I plan on starting with two HW fruit punch auto and another ... and now you have me thinking in regards to my fan I bet I will have the same problem for sure but I do have a slightly bigger space 1 x 1 x 1.8 I will have to wait and see

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Yeh mate only time will tell , its a pain in the arse tbh i think ive got everything covered then something else pops up an i have to throw more money at it lol ... Suppose you have teething probs and initial outlay expenses no matter what do in life , hopefully get to become self sufficient once these plants finished just be a case of getting more in soil when stash runs low. Sick of handing 20 quids over for bags of weed to Nobheads just so i can sleep properly and not be in pain .

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Ok so new fan has totally sorted heat issues out i was hitting 31-32 at times with 3 mars units running and the old shitty fan on the carbon filter . Now got 3 units running and 4 x 125w daylight CFL bulbs running and temp sitting between 24- 24.5c for thes last 2 hours :)

Now do i run all these lights ? Im thinking if can then why not? It works out 500w total cfl and around same true watts l.e.d ...its supposidly around 36,000 lumen all in so around 6,000 lumen per square foot and over 130w per square foot.

Is there such a thing of too much light ? Plants seem to be loving it at the min no signs of stress etc . Maybe i just see how they go if start seeing signs of stress remove a cfl at a time and do it that way .

Either way finally my room is dialed in and that feels good :-D.... As long as no more stuff breaks etc i should be fine .

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hows those mars doing any led's died on you yet?

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All working well no probs had my first 1 over a month now been on 20 hours a day since no overheating or burn outs other 2 working just as great atm ... Heard loads of good thing bout them anyway so fingers crossed , plus got 12 months warrenty if any diodes blow they send new ones out .... Hows yours going ? You got any lights yet or seeds in lanky?? .... Bet you cant wait to get started .

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I aint started yet .... but wont be long ;) doing loads of reading probably doing too much and over thinking stuff :D

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Yeh thats the one mate, i was reading months before got started, cant wait till get first harvest out the way, the weed in wales is shit man

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All working well no probs had my first 1 over a month now been on 20 hours a day since no overheating or burn outs other 2 working just as great atm ... Heard loads of good thing bout them anyway so fingers crossed , plus got 12 months warrenty if any diodes blow they send new ones out .... Hows yours going ? You got any lights yet or seeds in lanky?? .... Bet you cant wait to get started .

place a fan above led.s to make them cooler I've got the 142×5watt 1 960w 420true watts and don't rate them just add it in tent with 600w air cooled hood but wish you all the best m8 chris.more cooler they are less chance of leds burning out m8 Edited by chris48

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