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TICKS and LYME DISEASE

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So with the season just starting I thought I'd post up a quick guide to ticks, the problems they can pose and what to do if you think you have been infected by Lyme Disease

What to look for

A tick in the skin looks like this:

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Very often they can be found on your legs, especially the groin and inner leg but not always. Check yourself when you get in and remove any you find, this process itself is open to argument and I'm not going to go into the methods but they need to be removed, and crushed or flushed.

The problems

Some ticks carry disease and can cause infections, the worst of which is Lyme Disease. This starts as a bite mark with a small circle around it which grows into a large "bulls eye" ring like this:

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If you see this then you need to get treated pronto, other infections can cause the same ring but the issue with Lyme's disease is that it can't be detected for a month after infection, so the default position is to treat it as Lyme disease regardless. Lyme disease once it takes hold can be hard to treat and left un-diagnosed it can affect your for years afterwards, Ray Mears had it for 16 years.

Getting treated

Treatment is a massive dose of antibiotics for weeks and the default position with the NHS is to treat anything that looks like Lyme, as Lyme, although many practitioners in the NHS don't appear to be aware of this! Some doctors don't think Lyme is even in this country and say that if you haven't been abroad then it doesn't need treating, I have seen this first hand and you have to fight your position to be taken seriously. Print off the NHS guidelines to Lyme Disease and wave them in front of any nah sayers until you get the treatment you need, don't be fobbed off by arrogant specialists who think they know better, it is a fact that there are infected ticks carrying Lyme infections across the British Isles, which the NHS itself recognises.

If you have had one of these rings more than a month ago and it has now gone, then a Lyme infection can be tested for in blood samples, it can develop into a very nasty disease over time and be very debilitating, so if in doubt get it checked out.

Stay safe and I hope no one gets infected, prevention is always better than taking the risk though and with the need to get off the beaten track the risks are higher, so don't forget to tuck your trouser bottoms into your socks when going into the undergrowth and wear long sleeves!

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Absolutely hate those little fuckers! I'm forever finding them attached to my dog! Last year I found several crawling on my clothing and one under my guerrilla work gloves even, but not a single one attached to my skin. I will be extra careful this year though now that this new disease bearing species of tick has been found in England recently!

Usual routine when I get in is strip off, clothes straight in the wash, inspect my body and then up into a hot shower just in case. Those of you that inevitably get thorn scratches and stinging nettle stings don't always feel them or know they have them, at least until they get into a hot shower - and then it's agony! There's also nothing worse than a hot shower come midsummer when you've been out at your plot for a few hours and got a banging headache from the sun & dehydration. But apparently ticks hate the steaming, hot water...

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Sesquaterpene, is a natural repellent of ticks. There is a company that is developing a spray with it as the active ingredient, mainly for dogs and horses, but its all plant products, so should be okay on humans.

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@@distracted Thanks for the thoughtful post. My father-in-law has Lymes, he's a bee keeper and is suffering aching joints and bone problems, but can manage the symptoms. I should be more diligent in checking so thanks for the reminder!

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I wear long John's with socks over them which is good protection in the winter but can't do it in the summer!

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Avon "skin so soft" body moisturiser in a pump spray is a fantastic repellant. :yep: Works for all annoying bastard bugs, midge, mossies and ticks etc. It really is brilliant stuff. It was recommended to me years ago by a friend who serves in the marines. They swear by it and take it everywhere....especially the jungle. Blood sucking bastards of all types love me but I've only been bothered by them if I haven't used the "skin so soft". Can't recommend it highly enough. :yep:

e2a: Plus it makes you smell gorgeous petal lol

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So many around here but a small number is infected,took loads of them last year but no rings.

Getting thick gel this year,last year when i useed it i didnt find any ticks.

Even mosqitos are infected with nile disease,lots of crap came in past few years.

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What sort of vegetation do they live in ? Any particular habitat ?

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Most i find on my cat is mid aprill after rain or two there is loads of them and there are maybe 6 trees in my street more concrete then grass and fu ker still manages to bring some back home in my bed.

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What sort of vegetation do they live in ? Any particular habitat ?

as I understand it any vegetation is fine for them, they climb up grasses and the like and wait. Lyme infected ticks, unlike the new infection found in Essex are all over the UK and have been for years, our pets can bring them in so it isn't just an issue for GG'ers but the exposure risk is higher in the quieter areas where wildlife is less disturbed by people

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Skin so soft doesn't even touch the sides up here. Incidentally, skin so soft has an active pesticide in it, weird for a moisturiser no? It's deet, or you might as well not bother here, and I don't because I won't touch the stuff. Covering up, tucking in and a proper clean down of gear and body check before tea and a spliff.

Only tips I have on getting them out is twist, don't pull. If you have to use tweezers don't squeeze the body, but get under it, around the head area. Tick twisters are good to have around, but they need to have fed a little before you can use them, particularly if they are first stage. I think they need to be at least second stage to be carrying Lymes

Good post distracted, becoming a real problem is lymes.

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For a natural tick repellant get your first we of the day and take a ball of cotton wool dip the wool into the wee then smother all over your body the more you can get on the better if time allows wait till first application has dried then apply second coat of we make sure you get it all over and don't be tight with the application.This is a really good way to protect yourself and it's free and it hasn't got insectercide in like a lot of the products you can buy.Please let me know of your success with this natural way to keep safe because the disease these arachnids can spread is no JOKE it can be a killer so what is better being a bit whiffy for a day soaked in human urine or being very poorly or even worse so the thing I say is when the summer comes reach for the were to keep you in the game keep safe goohfy.

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Skin so soft doesn't even touch the sides up here. Incidentally, skin so soft has an active pesticide in it, weird for a moisturiser no?

There are a few different formulations of this product. The pump spray body moisturiser contains many nasties but no insecticides. one of the other formulations "Skin so soft bug guard" has added insecticide, but not the standard gear, it just works without it. I can't vouch for the bug guard one but up here the standard one works wonders for all who've tried it (including my two gamekeeper uncles who swear by it since they tried it). Perhaps you've tried the wrong one bro. It's the old school bog standard, turquoise capped pump spray one you want :yep:

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Bracken is one plant type that seems to attract a lot of ticks, but as said they go on all vegetation, except maybe urine soaked nettles :bag:

I usually get about 10 a season. Horrible fucking things. Thanks distracted.

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Bracken is one plant type that seems to attract a lot of ticks, but as said they go on all vegetation, except maybe urine soaked nettles :bag:

I usually get about 10 a season. Horrible fucking things. Thanks distracted.

Just a quick question about the bracken... one of my plots has bracken right nearby it, and quite a bit of it, of course this stuff is supposedly toxic and releases lots of spores which would also be toxic... so would this pose a potential hazard to the plants? Like I know it wouldn't effect the plant's growth, but could it be dangerous smoking something that has been exposed to these toxic bracken spores?

I have been thinking about this for a while but can't work out whether it would be a serious danger or not?

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